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  1. #21
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    Told you earlier, I joined and I have no real complaints.

    Ive never been to an AGM but Ive read the minutes and met both sides of the debate. The biggest ***** fest, and Im not kidding-years of entertainment-has centered on whether the 30cm portable TV should stay or whether we should get a FO plasma. Then if we get a FO plasma what are the "rules".

    Basically winter olympics and rugby are generally ok (thredders is full of rugby ******s and ski season is international time).

    These guys shorten their lives on this.

    Wireless internet was v contoversial cause it only worked in the common areas and some really self absorbed ******s (like me) sat really quietly and worked which apparently really FU peoples holidays.

    Talking endlessly about your hip replacement to any poor ****er who enters the room is however within the spirit of lodge zietgiest.

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    Default Re: how do you join a ski club?

    Hi all. Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I just stumbled on this one.

    I have 2 little kids (3 and 21 months), and another on the way in August (yes, we are mad)! I am very keen to get the kids into skiing and spend some time each year (although not this year) in the snow. I have obviously been finding it harder and harder to get up to the mountains in the last few years.

    Now, I'm starting to think that the only way we will be able to afford to get to the snow semi-regularly is to become a member of a lodge (in Vic). If any of you have experience in being lodge members with young families, I'd love to know what your advice would be. How did / does the lodge experience work for you? I do know a few people who still have fond memories of their lodges over the years, but wonder whether any snowatchers have any thoughts or experience to share.

    Thanks a lot, love the forum.

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    Default Re: how do you join a ski club?

    Option 1: Look at AAC Niseko's bed booking rights in Australian resorts.

    Option 2: Grab all the cash you can find, add kerosene, and light it!

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    Default Re: how do you join a ski club?

    We have a generation of kids who grew up skiing & boarding from our Jindabyne lodge. One went on to become a junior world snowboard champion.
    All have travelled extensively because of the love of snow sports.
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  5. #25
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    Wow - looking at all the joining fees etc, it seems that a club or lodge is not a cheap option in the beginning. It would take years to start to become a cheap option, so you would be joining for your passion, not the money, imo.

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    We get value by going every weekend and over both school holidays.

    The friendships with likeminded ski nuts are an added bonus.

    Look for a place with lodges in NZ.

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    The idea of being a loodge member is very tempting!
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    Default Re: How do you join a ski club?

    Shop around. Joining fees start at $250 to $1500 for places with a family bunk room and loos down the hall. Member rates can be half the public's rate. SoSome places are $20 a night to $45 to $60, the latter including dinner and breakfast. Some have overseas lodges like AAC's Niseko Lodge: buy in is $6500. We found better o/seas (see pic) so we moved the bulk of our ski budget o/seas: if not for a almost free week, we'd have a mere 3 days on mtn this season, but we have 7 weeks in 2 trips o/seas. What we aren't paying for resort entry/parking/oversnow pays for 1.5 return tickets to the US or would pay 2 return flights to Japan on Jetstar.

    We've got 5 weeks in the US with 'the lot' (see pic) (except petrol and groceries) for under $A10k, whereas 10 weekends here in a communal lodge would cost $7500 for the lot (except petrol and groceries).
    Last edited by Vet; 29-06-2010 at 10:11 AM.
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    Another option is to buy a unit...... for example Alberg @ Hotham have 1 bedroom walkthrough's that sell for 150 to 190k. If you rent them out most of the season and spend maybe a week sometime during the season and use it when its not booked (might mean ringing Friday morning to ask if its booked, if not then head up after work for the weekend etc). On a bad season you might be out of pocket but this would also be tax deductable. The only cost you will have to pay if your unit is not booked and you decide to use it is a cleaning fee. If its a good season you can make money and ski.

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    Default Re: How do you join a ski club?

    Thanks for the responses.

    There are a couple of different issues here. One issue is, what is the cheapest way to ski regularly in Australia with a young family, staying on mountain, during school holidays and weekends (and other times if possible!) over a number of years. I am not sure there is a cheaper way to do it than a lodge membership. Xena?

    The other issue which has received lots of discussion lately is whether to ski overseas instead of Australia. I won't go into that in detail here, other than to say that while the kids are young, I want the flexibility of being able to drive a few hours to ski on weekends, and need to stay on mountain. When the kids are older, I would love to head back overseas to ski. However, the biggest stumbling block will always be the need to buy 5 airfares. Even at the historically low prices we are seeing today, that would just about kill the deal. But if I was just buying a couple of airfares, the combination of low airfares, strong Oz dollar and weakish local ski markets in places like the USA would have me over there in a flash! I have been near tears at times reading Vet's (and many others') trip plans over the last year or so!

    Of course, we are all very fortunate to even be in the position to be weighing all these options up!
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    Default Re: How do you join a ski club?

    One of things I love about the lodge I belong to is no TV. We dont have one and will never install one. It makes for a great social atmosphere and it means all the kids will interact and start inventing/playing games together. makes for some memorable moments.

    So, if you are hunting out a lodge and you have a young family I'd be looking at family friendly lodges - not all of them are. Generally family style lodges are more tolerent of littlies needs. I'd doubt you'll be happy in a lodge with pissed 20 somethings...
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    Default Re: how do you join a ski club?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xena View Post
    Wow - looking at all the joining fees etc, it seems that a club or lodge is not a cheap option in the beginning. It would take years to start to become a cheap option, so you would be joining for your passion, not the money, imo.
    depends on the lodge. mine paid for itself over commercial rates within 3 ski trips of a week each....
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    What ski lodge do you belong to hoots? It sounds pretty awesome
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    Default Re: How do you join a ski club?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowie Meli View Post
    What ski lodge do you belong to hoots? It sounds pretty awesome
    Kiandra Pioneer at Perisher. Only small (sleeps 14) and very DIY (cooking, cleaning, linen, season working bee) which keeps the cost low. Membership is still closed as we have enough members to make ends meet each season and still alow everyone to get a ski in. There are other small private odges around which are similiar. Its set up for families to have a cheap (is there such a thing!?!?!!) ski holiday.

    Given its not commercial non members can only stay when accompanied by a member. I stayed several times before I joined and I'd said to the lodge to keep me in mind if they ever opened membership. I got lucky a few years later when membership opened for a period and I know a few of the members. As others have said you really want to stay somewhere several times before you splash the cash down. Definetly a lifestyle putchase rather than an investment.

    Without knowing someone I imagine you'd have to phone around the lodges in whatever ski area you were interested in and see who'll take non members for a stay. That way way you might pay a bit more as a non member but you get to see what its like before committing.

    I really broought it for my kids - it means after high school they can now go without me and stay with friends etc at a fairly cheap accomodation rate and still have good time.
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    Default Re: How do you join a ski club?

    Our Jindie lodge is just over $8,000 + $200pa levy.
    Only 30 owners - & can resell share .
    Unlimited number of free member nights (first in basis, but 14 day in a row max) & $10 for partner/night
    No TV allowed. No public internet listing/advertising. It's not commercial.
    Last edited by blutek; 29-06-2010 at 07:04 PM.
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    I like Internet access so I can work from the snow. My favorite clubs always had a strong regular active member base of like-minded people who are there most weekends. We share cars and parking lots, overseas accommodation, our rented accommodation and, more recently, we get hefty discounts on lessons and even skis. Today I received a ski magazine with prices that have a skiing in New Zealand at $900 for four heli runs resign and that three night/today heli with SUVs and meals and accommodation for a lousy $600 more - I hate democracy get in the way of a good bargain. There are a whole lot of other advantages of joining a club that is more than just a cheap place to sleep. Shop around, do your maths, and find a place that really suits you. I hit the Internet and the entire family went doorknocking to look through places, meet management and meet members. Personally I believe an exceptionally important factor is whether the club is now totally dependent on blow-ins, twentysomething partiers, on users rather than contributors. One thing I really like about our club are the contributors. I'd donate skis. Our bankers subsidized club functions. Founders of travel companies, lift companies and ski gear companies and ski manufacturers put their hands in their pockets and provide their time in between international jet setting to benefit the whole club. We're also lucky we have an exceptionally devoted board who want to turn the club away from being a soulless rooming house, and for the kids we have arcade games, DVDs, Internet access, kids parties, and a really terrific and affordable menu. As for going offshore, will be keeping it as our own little group for now: I have three weeks with either a spare bedroom or a spare adjoining unit in two of my US clubs which I don't want to go to waste. So if a buddy comes along, they get the buddy discount rates for lift tickets at $US 50 [about half price] or the financial benefit of other tips and tricks, we might even get to ski with the local Masters racing classes like Taxman and I did where we were pushed into some hairy terrain.

    So shop around. Try and find a club with lodges on several mountains where, for example, the superpass and the all resorts carpass can be used. Find out if they have reciprocal rights such as in New Zealand [I can get a club bunk bed at $NZ 50] and/or in Japan or other countries you might want to try in the future. Just bear in mind that the club is only as good as its current committee and I beware of any club run by snowfield socialists with lovely ideas that traditionally have been nearly bankrupted a lot of them: one I had in mind lost two of its three lodges and still had a debt of over $2 million until some lovely people who own a resort services of their forensic accountants to stop a hell of a lot of funny business.
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    Ski clubs are one of the very few ways skiing in this country can remain within reach of the average voter.

    I think more clubs will start looking at moving away from government rental sites to places like Dinner Plain or Jindabyne.

    Some are definitely moving offshore. I use the clubs which sell off their surplus suites. There is no joining fee or annual fee, however the midweek rate is about $US800 for 5 nights. Like many things in life, you have to know who to ask and when to ask [and I think I have that down pat], then you have to grab the deals and pay off your holiday in bits and pieces, preferably when the dollar is high, and airfares are low.
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