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    Default Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    I asked Mount Hotham Resort management board today to clarify the topic of Diamond pattern chains being suitable for Hothams new strict rules, the reply I got was that the Aldi chains are not approved under the new guidelines and are not allowed.

    Part of the email "Aldi chains do not comply with the Chain Determination that VicRoads, Mt Hotham RMB and Victoria Police have put in place for Mt Hotham."

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Oberin View Post
    I asked Mount Hotham Resort management board today to clarify the topic of Diamond pattern chains being suitable for Hothams new strict rules, the reply I got was that the Aldi chains are not approved under the new guidelines and are not allowed.

    Part of the email "Aldi chains do not comply with the Chain Determination that VicRoads, Mt Hotham RMB and Victoria Police have put in place for Mt Hotham."
    Thanks for the heads-up Paul.

    I had my own issues around this recently but with Thule K-Summit chains.

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    I am now hearing that Aldi chains and also spider chains are only banned within the area that the Hotham RMB control, so technically you can use them up until you get into the resort area, then change to a legal chain for the rest of the trip, what it does imply though I think, is that if coming from the Omeo side you could get as far as Dinner plain with your Spider chains and Aldi chains and be within the laws.

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    How ridiculous. So even though the Aldi chain are a diamond pattern chain, they are still not allowed. I haven't personally seen these so I am unaware of the quality of them, but which part of the "chain determination" don't they comply with? How do they come to this conclusion?

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    Agreed, I have been speaking to a few people about this (incl. Hotham Management) and it keeps coming back to one person.

    You can trade your k-summit chains for a set of winter tyres and diamond chains at xxxx in Melbourne. Then you have summer and winter tyres.

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    I miss the days we actually needed chains.
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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Oberin View Post
    I am now hearing that Aldi chains and also spider chains are only banned within the area that the Hotham RMB control, so technically you can use them up until you get into the resort area, then change to a legal chain for the rest of the trip, what it does imply though I think, is that if coming from the Omeo side you could get as far as Dinner plain with your Spider chains and Aldi chains and be within the laws.
    On Omeo side you would be able to get to Mother J's ticket box as that is the Resort Boundary on that side.

    Although I am confused - the determination has been made by RMB, VicRoads and Vic Police. The RMB only control area with in the Resort Boundary, and I think you will also find they only control areas outside the GAR yellow lines with in the Resort boundary. VicRoads manage/control the Great Alpine Road including the road between the yellow lines within the resort.

    But if VicRoads have also made/adopted this decision then the ruling will apply from Omeo to Harrietville, as this is the 'Declared Hazardous Area for the snow season" when all vehicles must carry chains.
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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    interested to know how they don't comply.

    where are spider chains made? same company that makes aldi chains?
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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    Spider is a style of chain. Plenty of companies make them. Some better than others

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    Quote Originally Posted by DHS View Post
    How ridiculous. So even though the Aldi chain are a diamond pattern chain, they are still not allowed. I haven't personally seen these so I am unaware of the quality of them, but which part of the "chain determination" don't they comply with? How do they come to this conclusion?
    It just could be that data collected by them indicates that the Aldi chains have failed far too often so they have banned them, a bit like Spider chains I suppose, in my opinion Rud and Konig Spider chains are of the highest quality, yet as Hotham say they have seen far too many fail while in use, so they are banned at Hotham.
    Rud and Konig (Thule) chains are made from a very high carbon steel and are hard to break, the Aldi chains are a much softer chain, one of the criteria for Hothams chain standards is for the chain to be made from a high grade steel.

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    FFS why skimp on bit of money and risk your life and that of anyone travelling with just because you reckon cheap chains are worth saving the dollars????

    I bought konig t2 magic no problem chains for $200 10 years ago secure in the knowledge they would not put my family's life in danger.

    I just sold them for $70 on ebay - net investment $130
    I used them 6 times, they never let me down once and saved me once when the rear tyres lost grip on an icy turn.

    I guess the real question is how much do you value your life or that of your family?

    I now own a 4wd. Konig/Thule Chains to fit it cost just $250. That's a 25% increase over 10 years.
    Compared to to general inflation & lift pass prices that's an absolute bargain.
    I fully intend to get some even though I live in NSW and they are not required by law - better safe than sorry - especially given the number of 4wd vehicles that have run off the road over the years in snow & ice conditions.
    there is never enough snow

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    Why are they allowed to sell inferior chains? There would be plenty of people getting caught out by it. Hope my chains are ok. I bought them from Paul!
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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    Quote Originally Posted by chunky View Post
    Why are they allowed to sell inferior chains? There would be plenty of people getting caught out by it. Hope my chains are ok. I bought them from Paul!
    I assume that there are Australian Standards for snow chains?

    I am more frustrated at Mt Hotham insisting on a blanket ban on all chains except diamond.

    I have Koing/Thule K-Summit chains as they are the only ones which fit my car. They retail at $600, are meant to be the highest quality and used around the world, yet they are not good enough for Hotham?

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    I was just reading that this years Aldi toboggans are banned at all Australian resort except Buffalo, due to the material they are made of pollutes the waterways, and the rule that all Toboggans must be made 100% from hard plastic.

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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    So, how are they going to police the use of Aldy chains, its not as if the rangers get out of the pay booth, and check every vehicle for chains. Also, how are they going to stop the use of Aldi toboggans in the national parks. the only way, would be to Stop Aldy importing this product, and if that is the case, the Goverment should get Aldy to recall all the toboggans they have sold, and give customers their money back. I can see that happening, NOT!
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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazza View Post
    how are they going to stop the use of Aldi toboggans in the national parks. the only way, would be to Stop Aldy importing this product, and if that is the case, the Goverment should get Aldy to recall all the toboggans they have sold, and give customers their money back. I can see that happening, NOT!
    At Buller some tobogganers simply told the guest services guy that they only obey God. Apparently the RMB isn't a real god in their opinion.
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    Default Re: Aldi chains are not approved at Hotham

    For the winter of 2020 onwards all Victorian resorts will require snow chains to comply with the O norm 5117 standard, Aldi chains do not comply and neither do a lot of others, so if buying chains for use in Victoria look for the white O Norm sticker on the box or bag.

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