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    Ski Shop Owner & Equipment Specialist - Voted Best Boot fitter in Australia (SIA Australia Awards 2013) Paul Oberin's Avatar
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    Default Re: Ask a boot fitter a question.

    Ok, you have described the most common problem that exists with snowboard boots, one that can usually only be fixed by having a lace or Boa system that allows the foot to be looser than the leg, if you want a Boa system you should only have a system with dual boa, that way you can tighten the leg up tight and leave the foot looser, the single Boa system sees the instep tightened way too much in order to get the leg firm enough in the boot, you can bridge the Cuneiform area of the boot with padding in the right place, this will help somewhat, if using a lace system you can tie off looser, the laced foot area and then tighten the leg lace part.
    You have described a foot tending to be a "Pes Cavus" foot shape, these should always have a very supportive custom footbed as a basic first step, your choice of bindings can play a big part also, some bindings have instep straps that put so much pressure on the instep, any boot will be a problem, good bindings can have the attachment point of the instep strap moved to a better place on the base plate to help here, try to get the instep strap to put more pressure on the leg and less on the instep, often this helps.
    If your boot allows, you can cut an area out of the tongue in the instep where the Cuneiform bones are located, this will take the pressure of the Peroneal nerves that send your toes numb, without seeing the boots and foot first hand it is hard to say what would work best, but basically you need to support the foot from underneath first, and then try to take the pressure off the top of the foot in the area of the Cuneiform bones.
    Good luck.

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    Default Re: Ask a boot fitter a question.

    Thanks for the answers paul and Mazza.

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    Default Re: Ask a boot fitter a question.

    This is probably a good time to revive this thread, ski boots have made some huge changes over the past two years.

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    Default Re: Ask a boot fitter a question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal View Post
    I think it's a great idea, would it include snowboard boots too ?
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    Default Re: Ask a boot fitter a question.

    What are some of the bigger advancements in the last couple of years Paul?

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    Default Re: Ask a boot fitter a question.

    The single biggest change for almost all brands, is that the liner now takes up all the room in a shell, in the past there would have been a gap in between the outside of the liner and the inside of the shell, of around 5 -10mm in front of the liner and also behind it, this meant a boot that was the right one for your foot, would have felt a size or two, too small until heat molded or worn in by the user for up to 10 days.

    Now when you try on a new boot, they will feel very close to how they will end up after wearing them in, the ramp angle under the liner has become less of an angle recently, most boots are allowing for the Navicular in the shell.

    One new boot coming out in December is really on the ball with both the liner and the shell having the shape of the ankles and Navicular built in already, ( my next new boot I think)

    A couple of models are using a material like the Zipfit liner, where cork that flows when worn to tighten lose spots and loosen tight spots.
    The toe box on many has been made wider, this has been a long time coming, for brands like Salomon, Tecnica and Dalbello.

    The plastics used are now much easier to work with, and some boots like Fischer and Salomon can be heated and worn while the shell conforms to the shape of your feet.

    Most of the top boot fitting shops now offer a shell only option, so you can select a few different liner options to gain performance at a lower price.

    For many I now see, the shells have changed to allow the power strap to be used the way it was designed to work, which is against the tongue, not over the top of the plastic overlap at the front.

    To a degree boot fitting is becoming easier, but at the same time boots are offering a much higher level of performance if fitted well.

    There are still two major problems in boot fitting I see almost daily, poorly made footbeds, and boots one to two sizes too big.

    The training in footbed making needs to be tightened up a lot, sadly many fitters attend a Masterfit clinic, get shown how to make a footbed, and absorb half the information, and off they go making footbeds that are next to useless.

    The boots a size or two too big is due mostly to people buying the boots on what they think is the correct fit rather than using a skilled boot fitter, almost every boot I sell, the customer tells me it is way too small the first 10 seconds they wear it, by the time they leave my shop they have changed their minds, but if I didn't help them, they would buy the next size up, or even two sizes up.

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    my boots fit me well
    let the games begin
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    Default Re: Ask a boot fitter a question.

    This was a good idea I thought, Epic forum was purchased by Vail ski resorts and then shut down, it was a fantastic source of knowledge about boot fitting. There is a need for such a forum even now but I doubt it will happen, even this year boots have taken another step forward over what was around only two years ago. I am hearing good things about a couple of boots that will be out next winter.

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