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    thanks Taxman. The last time we were there we stopped at Jindy for the first time - at Nuggets Crossing coincidentally I think.

    Yeah I checked out Stoeckli's website and the rotors looked like they could be a good choice, although they only come in 169 or 179. They recomend it being 5-15cms shorter than your height, so I would have preferred early 170s. They do say it is for medium to advanced skiers, so that seems right for me. I wouldn't look like an idiot with flash skis at my standard?

    Will definitely talk to Paul whatever I am buying.

    The best thing is that my two issues with my skis is how they hold on ice and sink in soft stuff (64mm waist). All of the skis suggested will solve both those issues.

    [size="1"][ 04.07.2007, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: james ][/size]

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    James, i didn't read this whole thread and I am sure most on here have already given you great advice, all i can do is maybe repeat some of it.

    Yes, the SX7 is too soft flexing for your skiing needs.

    This advice from readers is very good.
    Elan Magfire 14/Magfire Pro - 126-82-109, radius 17.2, 176cm long.

    Volkl AC 40 - 125-82-110 radius 17.8 177cm long.


    I would add Stoeckli Stormrider Xl and also Atomic Metron 11 and even 10, as well as Fischer AMC76

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    Thanks Paul

    Seems noone here knows too much about the Head skis. The two I would be interested in are the im75 and the Head Intelligence, both have about a 15-17m radius and are 75-78mm under foot.

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    I do know quite a lot about Head skis, I just didn't suggest them.

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    you don't think Head would be the right ones? My comment about no one here knowing much about Head might have come out a bit wrong.

    And you don't think 82mm is too big under foot?

    What about the Volkl AC3? A bit narrower under foot, smaller turning circle etc?

    [size="1"][ 04.07.2007, 01:19 PM: Message edited by: james ][/size]

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    Originally posted by SA:
    I've skied some Head Monsters - iM82.

    Very nice ski, but that width was more suitable for off-piste.

    Another thing - while I really enjoyed the Mag 10s and X-Wing Tornado, they have a quite small turn radius. I thought it could allow me to be a lazy skier in that I could ski short radius turns almost solely by laying the ski over and riding its sidecut, as opposed to actually having to bend and steer the ski as well. Something to think about if you're looking to advance...
    and did it?

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    My two bob - Jindy Sports have opened a demo centre at the base of Thredbo where the Salomon Shop used to be.

    Most of these you can demo with them. Ring their Jindabyne office for phone numbers or who to contact as they have only been open 5 days. Demo'd a pair on Saturday.

    Remember demo skis have the heavier demo bindings so you will need to take that into account when skiing.

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    I still reckon 82mm is a bit wide for a 70% on piste 30% off piste ski!

    Give them both a go and see!
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    Originally posted by james:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SA:
    I've skied some Head Monsters - iM82.

    Very nice ski, but that width was more suitable for off-piste.

    Another thing - while I really enjoyed the Mag 10s and X-Wing Tornado, they have a quite small turn radius. I thought it could allow me to be a lazy skier in that I could ski short radius turns almost solely by laying the ski over and riding its sidecut, as opposed to actually having to bend and steer the ski as well. Something to think about if you're looking to advance...
    and did it? </font>[/QUOTE]I didn't buy either ski james, so I am still skiing on planks around 17m radius. Gives me something to work on!

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    Originally posted by John Deere:
    I still reckon 82mm is a bit wide for a 70% on piste 30% off piste ski!

    Give them both a go and see!
    I agree with that, 76mm is better for someone who skis more on piste than off piste.

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    Originally posted by james:
    you don't think Head would be the right ones? My comment about no one here knowing much about Head might have come out a bit wrong.

    And you don't think 82mm is too big under foot?

    What about the Volkl AC3? A bit narrower under foot, smaller turning circle etc?
    Sorry James for slow replies, I am far busier than normal this season in the shop.
    I have just sat down to eat lunch in between bootfit appointments.

    The AC3 would be perfect for you, personally I see the Head Monsters as not all that good for mostly on piste, but Head do have some new Exenon skis that are good on piste skis that would also be suitable for the odd venture off piste.
    I did a whole thread on this forum which included Head skis a few months back, a search should find it.
    I will be back online after i close the shop later tonight, if you need to ask me anything else, although the others on here are all giving you great advice, you really don't need me.

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    Originally posted by Paul Oberin:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by james:
    you don't think Head would be the right ones? My comment about no one here knowing much about Head might have come out a bit wrong.

    And you don't think 82mm is too big under foot?

    What about the Volkl AC3? A bit narrower under foot, smaller turning circle etc?
    Sorry James for slow replies, I am far busier than normal this season in the shop.
    I have just sat down to eat lunch in between bootfit appointments.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Great to hear you are busy Paul. Everyone must be excited with all the fresh [img]graemlins/snowflake.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/snowflake.gif[/img] around!!!

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    Yes, but I feel I am letting a few people down that post on here seeking some advice and i don't get the time to post an answer, but there are so many others on here that know a lot about all sorts of skis in varied terrain, that threads like this are well covered without me.

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    Woot, i have just brought the Elan M 666 and from what John is saying i should have a lot of fun.
    Japow here we go again - End Jan 2 weeks.

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    Depending on your weight, you will love them!
    *insert witty comment here*

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    we appreciate all the help you offer Paul, don't feel the need to be apologetic. And I am glad you are busy!

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    im about 95 kgs, more after a big dinner
    Japow here we go again - End Jan 2 weeks.

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    Take a dump before you go skiing and they will hold a better edge
    *insert witty comment here*

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    Originally posted by james:
    I am looking for some 70/30 (roughly) skis - that is, 70% groomed and 30% powder. ....

    I am about 6 foot 1 (185cm), 88kgs, reasonably fit and pretty strong build. I ski reasonably aggressively for my level, which is upper-intermediate. ... I want some skis that will continue to service me as I (in theory anyway) move slowly into advanced. Cost is not a big issue but I don't want to look like an idiot with flash skis I can't handle. I tend to like doing faster long carving turns but I need to do short turns too and I want to do more work on bumps.

    I don't mind doing the odd jump but don't see myself as getting heavily into the parks.

    I guess I will need a waist of between 76-82mm, and a radius of say 14-16m. Length wise 170-176. I don't know enough about the flex factor to comment on that at this stage.
    james, my final take. Me, a good recreational skier, i.e. a level 7 -8 (on a good day) on my table of skiing ability (see sticky). Height/weight - 185cm/86kg. Therefore, probably similar stats to you.

    I've skied the Volkl AC3 @170cm (now the AC30) for 3 years and loved it. As per my previous comments, last year's model Volkls were made for obese Americans and IMO were overly stiff (as applicable to the rest of the World). I owned last year’s AC4 (the red one), could ski it, but even at my weight last year of 90kg, couldn't bend it, and as a consequence, didn't like it.

    I cannot comment on the Elan skis as I have not skied them; however, I understand they are very good skis.

    I traded the AC4 in on a pair of Stockli Stormrider XLs. The Stormrider XLs have very similar dimensions to the AC3 (Length/radius/tip-waist-tail):

    Volkl AC3 @170cm/16.5m/118-76-104
    Volkl AC3 @178cm/18.4m/118-76-104
    Stockli Stormrider XL @174cm/18.5m/116-75-102
    Stockli Stormrider XL @184cm/20.8m/116-75-102

    The Stormrider XLs have slightly less sidecut than the AC3s. This makes the ski more conducive to traditional skiing styles (i.e. it doesn't demand to be carved all the time like an Atomic Metron B5), also this makes it easier to ski in the bumps as it can be pivoted and is less hooky in soft snow.

    Both skis can be skied in powder, but they are not ideal (IMO the Stormrider is better). You really need a ski that is 90mm (or greater) at the waist for powder, or improve your technique and learn to ski in the snow.

    IMO, you are an ideal candidate for the Stormrider XL @ 174cm.

    Please also note, all of the skis recommended (Volkl, Stockli and Elan) are wood core laminate construction skis. These tend to be stiffer construction and more suited to a heavier skier (i.e. 80kg+) and a more advanced skier (i.e. not a beginner/intermediate). You would not look foolish on any of these skis.
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    Originally posted by Rhistman:
    Woot, i have just brought the Elan M 666 and from what John is saying i should have a lot of fun.
    I had some of these skis. Absolutely fantastic. They died a fiery death though. If there was site to host the pic I would show you what I mean.

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