New Burton bindings

[tambo]

ze Fishmunga needs a new board, and we were looking at the Custom or Custom X. But Burton have come up with a new binding system called the ESD or something similar.
As ze Munga just got brand new bindings in Japow, do you know if the baseplates are interchangeable between the 2 types of Burton bindings? [img]graemlins/snowboard2.gif[/img]

The Wildman is looking at the Dom Grom... he'sbecome such a park rat. [img]graemlins/boarder.gif[/img]

[kort]

I think you are referring to that "EST" setup....

From what I have seen on the Burton website, you can use non-EST bindings on an EST board - you just need to get the EST compatabible baseplates

[Tobi]

From what I understand the answer is no.

The EST boards do not have holes in them for normal bindings.

The EST bindings have a lower baseplate so that you are closer to the board, which in turn gives better response.

[snowman]

you can use none est bindings you just need the right base plate. but you can not use est bindings on a normal board

[tambo]

thanks guys... thats what we were expecting

[dopestyle]

any burton binding can go on an ICS board. all ICS boards come with a baseplate that will work with any burton binding.

the EST are bindings. EST will only go on an ICS board.

[kort]

One thing about the EST bindings - have been talking to a few stores over here in Breck and the general feedback from the people here is NOT positive.

Basically this seasons EST bindings dont have a solid baseplate so if you crank the bindings tight, the bindings flex causing you foot to bend in something of a "U" shape. This leads to some rather sore feet rather quickly....I was curious so I had a look at an EST binding and sure enough it was pretty flexy......

Apparently Burton are addressing this problem for next year...I spoke with 3 stores here and all 3 said people have come in complaining about how cra EST is.......made me stay away from them for at least this season thats for sure!

anyways thought the above might be something you would want to know - personally I tend to stay away from "new" technology/gimmicks for the first season - let the manufacturer iron out the issues first....

[dopestyle]

but the whole thing about the est bindings is the fact that its baseless. thats what they were trying to do... for better board feel, more natural board flex. est = extra sensory technology. no baseplate.

i have tried them myself and didnt notice any of the probs you mentioned.

[kort]

If its baseless then that fine, however if a high enough number of people are providing negative feedback then surely that would affect sales. The fact I spoke to 3 different stores and all 3 stores provided very similar feedback is saything something about the current product.

Sore feet is something I certainly want to avoid when I ride

[snowman]

I know a few crew that ride with them.. no complaints... i dont see how they could flex up in the middle as they are fixed secure either side....