Shoulder Injury

[SDJ]

Well I injured my sholder 6 weeks ago at work and I've just been told by the Physio that she is going to recommend i see a specialist :( Its really starting to frustrate me cause I cant do much at all :( and the worst thing is the surf has been so good lately and all I can do is watch. Don't get met started on Snow either, I just hope it comes good before i go to Japow

anyhoo that is all

[Bear]

That blows SDJ at least the recoperation should be covered by your employer/whatever worker comp is called these days.

[Jahoota]

Is it your drinking arm? :eek:

[Brendan]

hmmmmm.
just started thinking about this situation with my elbow.
hope its gets better for ya sdj

[pow pig]

A mate dislocated his shoulder in Japow back in Feb, had a reco of the rotor cuff, loads of physio, and still could not ride this winter.

He is hopeful of being good for our Colorado road trip next Feb, but even that is looking unlikely at this stage. :mad:

Yep, he's a 'boarder! I guess that happens when your knuckles drag on the ground huh ;) tongue.gif

[foxpuppet]

Originally posted by pow pig:
A mate dislocated his shoulder in Japow back in Feb, had a reco of the rotor cuff, loads of physio, and still could not ride this winter.

He is hopeful of being good for our Colorado road trip next Feb, but even that is looking unlikely at this stage. :mad:

Yep, he's a 'boarder! I guess that happens when your knuckles drag on the ground huh ;) tongue.gif i'd prefer a shoulder over an acl like you skiers seem to get!
i disco'd my shoulder in japow in feb to, but rode my remaining week, been to physio and specialist....specy says 2 i can wait up to 2 years before having reco, so choose when i'm not going O/s for riding. took it easy this season.... for the first few minutes at least. currently 95% chance of repeat injury until surgery

[foxpuppet]

Originally posted by SDJ:
Well I injured my sholder 6 weeks ago at work and I've just been told by the Physio that she is going to recommend i see a specialist :( Its really starting to frustrate me cause I cant do much at all :( and the worst thing is the surf has been so good lately and all I can do is watch. Don't get met started on Snow either, I just hope it comes good before i go to Japow

anyhoo that is all are you in sydney? book in to see nick stepkovich at SSRS in hornsby...total genius physio. highly recommended for shoulder injuries.
and if you are after a surgeon, david duckworth at the SAN in wahroonga if you can get in. he took all the hassle out of getting MRI and no waiting....he pulls strings at the medical imaging places to get you in the same day.

[claydough]

Same SDJ,actually saw Doc today after physio's recommendation.Off tomorrow for x-ray's and ultrasound.......I've been carrying this for a long time so maybe its time to fix properly..You're right tho its so restrictive. Hard to get a good nights sleep :(

[SDJ]

Originally posted by foxpuppet:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SDJ:
Well I injured my sholder 6 weeks ago at work and I've just been told by the Physio that she is going to recommend i see a specialist :( Its really starting to frustrate me cause I cant do much at all :( and the worst thing is the surf has been so good lately and all I can do is watch. Don't get met started on Snow either, I just hope it comes good before i go to Japow

anyhoo that is all are you in sydney? book in to see nick stepkovich at SSRS in hornsby...total genius physio. highly recommended for shoulder injuries.
and if you are after a surgeon, david duckworth at the SAN in wahroonga if you can get in. he took all the hassle out of getting MRI and no waiting....he pulls strings at the medical imaging places to get you in the same day. </font>[/QUOTE]im in newcastle.. but if i have to i will travel to sydney to get it sorted.
jahoota yep its my drinking arm and man its weird drinking with the other

the scary thing is ive had the Xrays and ultra sounds and they showed nothing according to the report but my physio is a bit sus about the ultra sound and thinks it needs to be re done, and she is saying its very hard to treat cause everything seems to be irritating that she gives me to do. the first doc i started seeing basically sent me home and just said to have a few panadol and if the pains still there in 2 weeks come back. well im not seeing that doc anymore.

[claydough]

Was there any mention of tendon damage (torn or snapped) and does anyone know if this is repairable....?

[Boardingbuny]

Dr Neil Halpin in Newy is also a good specialist.

He's in the Lisa Tynan physio building. New Lambton I think... 49526859

Not 100% sure he specialises in Shoulders, but I can guarantee he'll send you to the best

[ 18.09.2008, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: Boardingbuny ]

[SDJ]

kool thanks guys and gals. The Physio is leaning towards tendon damage but with a potential dodgy ultrasound cant be certain. I go back to the GP tomorrow so we'll see what he has to say and were he will refer me to

[foxpuppet]

you need an MRI, the ultrasound and x ray can't see the torn ligament. That's why you need to go to a specialist/surgeon, u can't get anything back from Medicare unless you hAve an MRI referall. Did your shoulder go numb for a while and feel heavy? Possibly similar injury to mine, a subluxation, dislocate and relocate in one move,nice huh! I couldn't sleep well either. However if you can see nick, he really will get it much better. I couldn't even lift my arm to level with my shoulder, within one session I could get it nearly vertical... This guy works on triathletes and his practice is a training school for physios from o/s. 02 94774848 is his number, i've been to a fair few physios over the years but this guy is really great andnot too pricey, doing it for the love!

[skijacski]

Top shoulder expert in Australia is David Sonnabend, but I don't know if he is open to new clients. Based in Sydney.

He worked on my whole shoulder and put a few other bits and pieces back together, as I used to dislocate out the back if you shook my hand!

LOL, you should have seen some people who thought they had broken me. But I am a rubberband person, so it was no big deal.

[pow pig]

Originally posted by Boardingbuny:
Dr Neil Halpin in Newy is also a good specialist.

He's in the Lisa Tynan physio building. New Lambton I think... 49526859

Not 100% sure he specialises in Shoulders, but I can guarantee he'll send you to the best Great recommendation if SDJ dislocated his groin!

And good luck getting an appointment - it's end of footy season and he'd be busy I'd say...

He's highly recognised as a groin surgeon, and treats lots of footy players, mostly Knights. He was also the guy who ratted on Joey's drug habits! :D

[pow pig]

[/qb][/QUOTE]i'd prefer a shoulder over an acl like you skiers seem to get!
i disco'd my shoulder in japow in feb to, but rode my remaining week, been to physio and specialist....specy says 2 i can wait up to 2 years before having reco, so choose when i'm not going O/s for riding. took it easy this season.... for the first few minutes at least. currently 95% chance of repeat injury until surgery [/QB][/QUOTE]

Well I'd prefer neither! Sore legs from skiing is the only pain I "enjoy"!

My mate did his 3 days into a 15 day trip. He was the missing link in our annual Hotham week this year! He could have also rode and "taken it easy" but is saving himself for OS. A wise choice for sure but only if this northern winter is good!

[SDJ]

well i was refered to a Dr Steve Brindley at Sandgate and my appointment isnt till 8th of dec so im hoping Physio can get it sorted cause im not keen on being out of action that long. I better start working on drinking beers lefthanded now i guess

[foxpuppet]

Originally posted by SDJ:
well i was refered to a Dr Steve Brindley at Sandgate and my appointment isnt till 8th of dec so im hoping Physio can get it sorted cause im not keen on being out of action that long. I better start working on drinking beers lefthanded now i guess I wouldn't wait, once you get into the specialist it takes a while for the process, get into anyone you can, my gp gave me 10 to phone up and get in asap.

[claydough]

Had my ultrasound today....radiographer said he could see tendon damage without giving me any details.Asked if there was much in fixing and he said there were plenty of options available....so something this painful does'nt appear too serious. Off to Quack next tThursday.. smile.gif

[claydough]

Back from doctor and results of ultrasound reveal full thickness tear of supraspinatus tendon,bursitis and tendinous impingement and advanced degenerative change at the AC joint... Apparently surgery is the only remedy. The problem being the recovery period is 12 months. First 6 weeks is spent in a sling with minimal movement and the next 4 weeks still not able to return to work! The next 4-5 months will involve rehab....Oh well guess i'll hve to find other interests because swimming,surfing,paddling and even skiing are out for a while... :( Good luck with yours SDJ.... smile.gif

[Brendan]

damn claydough !!!
that s#cks big time. hope your in a line of work that will help you out being off for that long.

[ 25.09.2008, 07:06 PM: Message edited by: Brendan ]

[claydough]

Thanks Brendan, I'm an electrician with the supply authority so I should be right altho I pretty much double my wage with callout and emergency work so a bit of belt tightening could be in order... :D

[Brendan]

hahaha another sparky.
ive been looking at trying to get in with synergy ( wa supply authority ) but i think i need a little more experience first.

[SDJ]

Originally posted by claydough:
Back from doctor and results of ultrasound reveal full thickness tear of supraspinatus tendon,bursitis and tendinous impingement and advanced degenerative change at the AC joint... Apparently surgery is the only remedy. The problem being the recovery period is 12 months. First 6 weeks is spent in a sling with minimal movement and the next 4 weeks still not able to return to work! The next 4-5 months will involve rehab....Oh well guess i'll hve to find other interests because swimming,surfing,paddling and even skiing are out for a while... :( Good luck with yours SDJ.... smile.gif Dam that realy bites mate, well i hope all goes well with the surgery and the rehab. Keep me posted how u travel
How old is your injury??? Mines 8 weeks next tuesday

:eek: graemlins/brr.gif I hope mine isnt that bad though my physio seem think from all his strength test and looking and feeling that mine seems as though its a deep one. So far I havent responded to any treatment, the only relief i get is from ice packs or heat packs and that is only temporary and when the pain gets to much i pop a panadeine forte i got prescribed..

[skijacski]

Originally posted by SDJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by claydough:
Back from doctor and results of ultrasound reveal full thickness tear of supraspinatus tendon,bursitis and tendinous impingement and advanced degenerative change at the AC joint... Apparently surgery is the only remedy. The problem being the recovery period is 12 months. First 6 weeks is spent in a sling with minimal movement and the next 4 weeks still not able to return to work! The next 4-5 months will involve rehab....Oh well guess i'll hve to find other interests because swimming,surfing,paddling and even skiing are out for a while... :( Good luck with yours SDJ.... smile.gif Dam that realy bites mate, well i hope all goes well with the surgery and the rehab. Keep me posted how u travel
How old is your injury??? Mines 8 weeks next tuesday

:eek: graemlins/brr.gif I hope mine isnt that bad though my physio seem think from all his strength test and looking and feeling that mine seems as though its a deep one. So far I havent responded to any treatment, the only relief i get is from ice packs or heat packs and that is only temporary and when the pain gets to much i pop a panadeine forte i got prescribed.. </font>[/QUOTE]Both of you are in for major surgery, and a 6 months rehab, mine I was able to cut to 4 months as I am a good patient and have physio 3 times a week.

The shoulder is one of the most complicated and needs addressing if injured.

Find the best sports physio as you will need them. No alcohol, lots of water, walking, oh and figure out how to use the other hand and arm, if you are having surgery on your key arm, you will need it to wipe your b..m, and clean your teeth.

This can be a challenge if you are not ambi.

[BrumbyJack]

Surgery is not always the last option.

I completely shattered my shoulder last year and I didn't have surgery, it got better with the only intervention being an intra-articular cortisone injection, to try and reduce the bursitis. Even that took some time.

The Rotator Cuff tears healed on their own, slowly.

If you don't have money, time is your friend.

[skijacski]

Not if you have ripped all the tendons, muscles etc off the bones - all gone. Bionic shoulder now.

[foxpuppet]

Originally posted by skijacski:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SDJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by claydough:
Back from doctor and results of ultrasound reveal full thickness tear of supraspinatus tendon,bursitis and tendinous impingement and advanced degenerative change at the AC joint... Apparently surgery is the only remedy. The problem being the recovery period is 12 months. First 6 weeks is spent in a sling with minimal movement and the next 4 weeks still not able to return to work! The next 4-5 months will involve rehab....Oh well guess i'll hve to find other interests because swimming,surfing,paddling and even skiing are out for a while... :( Good luck with yours SDJ.... smile.gif Dam that realy bites mate, well i hope all goes well with the surgery and the rehab. Keep me posted how u travel
How old is your injury??? Mines 8 weeks next tuesday

:eek: graemlins/brr.gif I hope mine isnt that bad though my physio seem think from all his strength test and looking and feeling that mine seems as though its a deep one. So far I havent responded to any treatment, the only relief i get is from ice packs or heat packs and that is only temporary and when the pain gets to much i pop a panadeine forte i got prescribed.. </font>[/QUOTE]Both of you are in for major surgery, and a 6 months rehab, mine I was able to cut to 4 months as I am a good patient and have physio 3 times a week.

The shoulder is one of the most complicated and needs addressing if injured.

Find the best sports physio as you will need them. No alcohol, lots of water, walking, oh and figure out how to use the other hand and arm, if you are having surgery on your key arm, you will need it to wipe your b..m, and clean your teeth.

This can be a challenge if you are not ambi. </font>[/QUOTE]again, try nick stepkovich in hornsby...he seems to be the go to guy for a lot of big sport types

[claydough]

Thanks all for advice and good wishes....SJS, I have great physio who is friend and ex competitive rival but there is no way I am doing this with no grog..!Am already wondering how Iwill spend time..will have to master posting photos and other online skills!..Brendan,get over that elbow and then look at the power distributors.Always looking for people anywhere in Oz.. smile.gif graemlins/skier.gif

[SDJ]

well i go to the specialist tomorrow morning so i guess ill have a better idea of it all after that. I can even see my shoulder muscles around my shoulder blade dropping heaps and a friend i saw on the weekend is an anethesist and he noticed it through my shirt even.
i guess all i can do is wait and see.

As for the the whole thing my injury happened at work and it all happening as a workers comp claim so im not paying a cent and am getting seen to fairly quickly now as obviously they want me back at work quick so they dont have to keep paying me insurance money

Im very happy with my physio and I have been recommend this specialist by quiet a few people and as my wife is a nurse she tends to hear who is good and whos not and her work colleagues were who suggested him. I'm seeing Dr Ed Bateman

[SDJ]

well just went to the specialist this morning and he spotted a tear in the supraspinatus from the ultrasound and since the injury is only 8 weeks old he wants to really work on it through physio over the next 6 weeks to try to avoid the surgery. Im booked on for a MRI in 5 weeks before i see him again. So physio here i come.
He said if he operates itll be no snow for me in Japow :( :( :( so anyone out there that can do miracle healings let me kno ;) cause so far physio hasnt been able to help at all

[SDJ]

well i thought it was time for an update on the situation.
Currently im attending physio 3 times a week, and finaly go for my MRI tomorrow.
Workeres comp is still paying me
My shoulder has improved and physio is thinking i may not need surgery now. But i guess thats up to the specialist to decide next week when i see him


hows urs going Claydough???

[SDJ]

well Friday is the big day... I finally go in for surgery so wish me luck. Guess its time to become a lefthander for a while... should be interesting :eek: 6 weeks in a sling and who knows from there.
I plan on giving up the alcohol to hopefully improve the recovery period and cut down on the waist line ( might as well kill 2 birds with the 1 stone) this may prove harder than expected though.

oh i forgot an update after the MRI it truns out that i have a tear in my bicepts anchor on the long header bicept

[schnee fraulein]

Best of luck to you SDJ. I hope surgery is the answer ...I know what its like to battle with physio as I have chronic (and goddamn painful) back problem and no surgery option. Hope you have a quick recovery post-op too and are back on the snow this winter.

[DHS]

All the best SDJ. We all hope you have a speedy recovery because........ graemlins/snownotfaraway.gif

[Bear]

Good luck with the surgery SDJ. :D

[SDJ]

thanks guys.
if all goes well i should be back all good ready for out winter, +1 is super keen after japan and is even talking about going to NZ so ill be doing my all to get back into good condition and shape for winter. I think +1 has almost got the snow bug one more trip should see it locked in :D

[The Frog]

good luck.

[carvit]

jeez..that's a long time to wait for surgery
i hope all ends up in the 'tops' bracket SDJ

[Xena]

Originally posted by DHS:
All the best SDJ. We all hope you have a speedy recovery because........ graemlins/snownotfaraway.gif 102 days to be exact.

[tambo]

did rotor cuffs on both shoulders last yr, one in Japow and one in good ol' OZ. I feel very lucky now that I haven't needed much in the way of rehab or surgery. And now I know what I did to injure them, I will try never to fall like that again.

Fingers crossed for you, I know just how you feel. :(

[Old Boarder]

"lucky you"
it looks like my season might be over.
i did the cartilige in my knee six weeks ago and had it removed last week.
Was all ready to go back to work next week only to fall over this afternoon and break my arm.
6 weeks in plaster, 2 months off work.
even if i do go to the mountains this year i will be unlikely to board because i won't have the confidence my body is up to it - not the best way to approach the slopes.

[tambo]

NOOOOO!!!!
that is too bad. Bug ger!!
:(

[SDJ]

well i just got home from the surgery snd hospital. am still in heaps of pain and im stuck a sling for the next 6 weeks and can do almost nothing with my right arm, so im now a lefty.

i dont think the problem was as seriuos as the specialist initially thought. though ill confirm and get it in simple terms on monday when i go back and see him.

tell u what typing with only my left hand isnt real fun and very slow.

oh well gotta go start gettin ready for a wedding i have to go to.(armed with pain killers)

[foxpuppet]

how are you going now?

[SDJ]

yeah its coming along nicely the joint feels nice and solid now. Im doing 3 physio sessions a week. And just trying to get strength and range of movement back into it. All the muscles and tendons are super tight but its getting there. fingers crossed ill be able to start doing a bit more soon and start swimming to build it up again. I got clearance to go back to work on admin duties but apparently things are slowing down and they dont have any admin duties so they dont want me back till i can get on some tools

[Total punter]

SDJ - from an ex front rower with many ops under my belt I'll let you in on a commonly used term.... You probably know it by now

LAZY BOY - Enjoy!

Aparently the girls love a good scar he hehe

[rylandoz]

I just had a shoulder stabilization/reconstruction on the 2nd of March...

Injured it last year snowboarding at Perisher and it dislocated a few times. Had the surgery on March 2nd and having it in the sling for 6 weeks is hell.

Been going to the physio about once a week for the last few weeks doing stretches to improve the movement in the joint and it's a very slow process. Can't wait for the 3 month post-surgery mark where i can start doing a bit more with it...

****s because I will be working at Perisher again this season and will have to be extremely careful because the last thing I want to do is dislocate it again because I need to pass a medical to get into the army late this year/early next year.

Hope everything is coming along nicely for you :D