Flare run... 15th Aug 09....Who's in????

[Skipig]

Hi all... with the slide being at Thredbo this year ... ?????

[Barcoo]

I’m In for sure Skiswine tongue.gif graemlins/skier.gif graemlins/woohoo.gif

[spaz]

I'll try not to hurt myself before then. graemlins/boarder.gif

[Skipig]

Well... Thats 3 of us graemlins/big_laugh.gif .... I feel it in my bones that its going to be a huge flare run.... graemlins/woohoo.gif

[ 11. May 2009, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: Skipig ]

[Barcoo]

There will be more Skipig there will be more. smile.gif

[The Frog]

Don't you have to be like instructor standard to do it? I'd hate to take a spill holding a flare. smile.gif

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by The Frog:
Don't you have to be like instructor standard to do it? I'd hate to take a spill holding a flare. smile.gif No not at all, just competent in all conditions. To put it simply it’s like a fast ski school snake (at night).
If you fall, you just dowse your flares and shuffle to the end.
Frog It’s soooo much fun & we are hoping to where Spaz’s head cams.

[ 13. May 2009, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: Barcoo ]

[ernie_luvs_2_ski]

Dumb question, but as a PB pass holder, do you need a valid lift ticket to take part?

[Barcoo]

No Ernie, more the merrier. :D

[mammoth junkie]

ive always wanted to do the flare run but wasnt 100% sure on how to do it/register.. id be at perisher that weekend but would def make the drive over to do it... would i need to buy a lift ticket for the night?

[Barcoo]

No guys you don't need a lift ticket. we will all meet beforehand and I will guide every one though it .
It’s so easy we just rock up, sign a peace of paper and your in. I showed Skipig last year and he wants to do A flare run every week this year.It’s well worth the dive MJ.
By the way I will Also be doing one on the 8th of Aug.
:D graemlins/skier.gif graemlins/boarder.gif

[ 14. May 2009, 11:17 PM: Message edited by: Barcoo ]

[Skipig]

Originally posted by The Frog:
Don't you have to be like instructor standard to do it? I'd hate to take a spill holding a flare. smile.gif Hey Frog .... by the time the instructors and everyone gets to the top with all thier pockets and bellys full.... All the standards have dropped and its a really fun and relaxed atmosphere.... and its not that quick a trip back down on freshley re-frozen groomers .... and if its a nice night its really pleasant skiing down by moonlight..... BTW... make sure you are wearing something really warm and also dont mind getting it burnt (mabe sml spots from wind blown sparks) and a broken set of stocks for holding the flare so your gloves dont get burnt(Lesson learnt and later, taught by the brilliant Barcoo last year) I will collect some before everyone gets down ... just need to know #'s

[Skipig]

Originally posted by mammoth junkie:
ive always wanted to do the flare run but wasnt 100% sure on how to do it/register.. id be at perisher that weekend but would def make the drive over to do it... would i need to buy a lift ticket for the night? MJ... i was exactly the same for years ... and i mean "years"!!!!!....Then finally last year it happened.. Highly recommended!!!!

[Barcoo]

Well said Skipig. smile.gif
Just want to say we will be also attending a Flare Run on the 6th of Aug, and don't worry your ski gear will be safe.

[Skipig]

Well....... There goes ..... it looks like we are back to three....Not only a thread killer, but he also scares ppl away from flare runs by putting visions in thier heads of themselves and may other poor souls skiing down the mountain fully ablaze......Sorry.. graemlins/big_laugh.gif

[ozgirl]

You know what - am in!!

I have been thinking about this - it will be an extra weekend but I really want to do it and doing it with you guys sounds fun :)

Don't know where I am going to sleep etc but those are minor details really...

Come on peeps join in!!

[Skipig]

Goodonya Ozgirl.... Thats the spirit.. i was starting to get a complex .... As far as accom goes, you may want to talk to Barcoo who may have a bed or two through those dates ....

Come on peeps join in!!

[24]

25 and i will be there at thredbo that weekend, but not really sure about participating. I think I would like to do it. Will you post meeting times closer to the event? also, I presume snowboarders are welcome? Philbo might be keen also...

[Skipig]

Hey 24....The more the merrier... and yes, snowboards are welcome .... we will post meeting times and locations during the lead up and drop all of your inhabitions of entering as it is exciiting and differnt.... BUT most of all, i promise you will have the time of your life and kick yourself for not doing it before....

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by Skipig:
Well....... There goes ..... it looks like we are back to three....Not only a thread killer, but he also scares ppl away from flare runs by putting visions in thier heads of themselves and may other poor souls skiing down the mountain fully ablaze......Sorry.. graemlins/big_laugh.gif graemlins/big_laugh.gif graemlins/big_laugh.gif graemlins/big_laugh.gif

Great to hear Ogirl and 24
We will meet at the Bistro on the balcony as we did last year at 430pm. Skipig and I will collect flare extenders (broken ski poles) to dispel all burning fears ( after many FRs I haven’t had a burn yet).

The count so far

Skipig
Barcoo
Spaz
24&25
Ozgirl

And hopefully

The Frog
Mammoth junkie
Enie luvs to ski

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by ozgirl:
You know what - am in!!

I have been thinking about this - it will be an extra weekend but I really want to do it and doing it with you guys sounds fun :)

Don't know where I am going to sleep etc but those are minor details really...

Come on peeps join in!! Ozgirl Skipigs right, we might have some room for you to crash if you need a place to stay on those dates.
We are staying a 3 story log cabin in Thredbo Village from 7 - 15 Aug.

[ 25. May 2009, 08:17 PM: Message edited by: Barcoo ]

[24]

so i know this has been asked before, but do you just register on the afternoon barcoo?

[Barcoo]

Yes 24 all you do is sign a form, It is easy peasy, we will guide you though it. It's a lot of fun, it's like you are in a movie, very surreal. We are also going to film it with head cams.

[Skipig]

Barcoo- you forgetfull little sausage...... You forgot to tell 24 to wear something with heaps of pockets or a backpack for the bevvys..... graemlins/emoticon_skier.gif

[Barcoo]

Hopfuly we will all get a chance meet on the mountain for a slide earlyer in the day. graemlins/boarder.gif graemlins/skier.gif

[24]

that would be awesome. I have only met one snowatcher before in the flesh, although it was a fairly high profile one.

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by 24:
that would be awesome. I have only met one snowatcher before in the flesh, although it was a fairly high profile one. I think It’s always fun meeting people who have a passion for the snow, especially when we are IN the snow and are about to hit the mountain.

[24]

:D

[skijacski]

If you do every single flare run from the beginning to the end of season that they run, you get invited to a dinner. I think they also give you a free beer to make the Slowbums ride a bit merrier.

Watch out for Backpacker! He is a knarly little fellow, who has ended up going around the bullwheel at the top when his backpack caught up on it. It was a sight.

Oh and dont wear your best gloves wear some old ones, as you can end up with burn holes in them from the flares.

The flares actually give you better definition of the snow so it is much easier to ski. Depending on the conditions the snake goes at different speeds.

If I feel so inclined I might participate, but I could be busy with +1.

[24]

Originally posted by skijacski:
but I could be busy with +1. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Good tips SJS, but the closing line?!?!

do you plan that stuff this far in advance? graemlins/cold.gif

[TB]

Only done the flare run once, the biggest ever anniversary one.

Old gloves check, rotate flare (seriously It will burn down one one side otherwise), have a laid back attitude-maybe less important with much less than 1000 skiers smile.gif

My hero (yep he told me later he was a semi-pro roller blader),

"well this was my first day on skis/snow and I'd never been on the supertrail before, we did Friday and Merritts all day!!!"

Why this is cool-

Firstday on snow-anywhere, any transport system
First snowgums ride
First supertrail view
First ride sans stocks
1000 other skiers
Its dark!!!

This guy should have started skiing way younger-olympic champ. (PS he was for real). No he did not crash.

My tip, do not line up behind a boarder unless you know that they are:

a) good
b) if the answer is not a) then swap with some ****er. Rubbish skiers can play follow the leader, rubbish boarders seem to wish to flatten the leader.

[Boardingbuny]

Originally posted by ozgirl:
You know what - am in!!

I have been thinking about this - it will be an extra weekend but I really want to do it and doing it with you guys sounds fun :)

Don't know where I am going to sleep etc but those are minor details really...

Come on peeps join in!! If that doesnt work out, my place is available.

[24]

25, philbo and his +1 are in...

[Barcoo]

Nice one 24, my sister will be in, looks like quite a turn out :D

[ozgirl]

Barcoo - did you get my PM? I have a hit and miss with those some people get them some don't or it is empty..

[Barcoo]

Just sent one Ozgirl, sorry for the delay. please let me know if you don't get it :D

[ 01. June 2009, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: Barcoo ]

[spaz]

Aug
8th
Barcoo
spaz

15th
Skipig
Barcoo
spaz
24&25
Ozgirl
skijacski
philbo and his +1

And hopefully

The Frog
Mammoth junkie
Enie luvs to ski

[spaz]

Do they have an age limit?

Pink Princess (5) was making it down Crackers last year, by Aug she will have clocked up a ton of skiing hours. Otherwise we will have to find a baby sitter so +1 can do it.

[bdenny4]

Do they do this at other mountains, or is it just Thredbo?

[Skipig]

Come on Spaz---- im doing every single one .... want to do it too???

[skijacski]

Just Thredbo, and yes Spaz there is an age limit, so Pink Princess has to do the Friday flat one on Thursday nights. Good one for the local kids too.

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by bdenny4:
Do they do this at other mountains, or is it just Thredbo? Yes Thredbo is the only resort in Aust with a Flare run as it has a village with a very good view of the whole mountain, and with a vertical fall of 670m It’s quite a show. It’s put on to welcome all the new visitors to the mountain.
They also do them in the US, Canada and Europe

[spaz]

Skipig, are you in the village?
I hope you're not driving from Engadine every weekend.

[Skipig]

Lol@ Spaz.... of course im in the village with such a big call.... will be there this arvo for the season.... mabe catch up

[Barcoo]

Skipig I guess you need to write Thredbo in the "from" section on your posts graemlins/woohoo.gif graemlins/skier.gif graemlins/thecold.gif

[Barcoo]

UP DATE
Aug 8th
Barcoo
spaz
Skipig

15th
Skipig
Barcoo + Sister
spaz
24&25
Ozgirl
skijacski
philbo and his +1

And hopefully

The Frog
Mammoth junkie
Enie luvs to ski

[spellcheck]

How you going Barcoo? Not long to go till we do it all again, cannot wait.I will be down 9th-16th.
Took a lot of persuassion from your sister last year but we finally got there(HA,HA,HA)
Count me in.

[Barcoo]

About time we heard from you spellcheck you lurker.
look forward to see you mate. Me thinks we are going to need more flares. ;) graemlins/skier.gif graemlins/boarder.gif graemlins/ismellsnow.gif

[spellcheck]

Spoke to Skiswine this afternoon he said the teprature at SALLY'S was 5 ,he's on the mountain from now on so we will be able to get the snow conditions straigt from the swines mouth.

[Barcoo]

yes I know I'v been speaking to over the past few weeks, very exiting.

[spaz]

Originally posted by Barcoo:
Me thinks we are going to need more flares. Thredbo seemed to have enough on this night.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa27/spazo77/Copy3ofFLARE6x8FINAL.jpg

[Barcoo]

Great shot Spaz graemlins/woohoo.gif graemlins/woohoo.gif graemlins/woohoo.gif

[Skipig]

Hey all .... I am already starting to get a nice little collection of broken stocks .... dont forget, there is always night siiing after the flare run for those who dont feel confident with fireworks and the whole supertrail ... we can still all ski together and night skiing is a great way to keep the fun going.....

[Jerraman]

I won't be able to make the 8 Aug run as I will be back in Canberra for my rugby club's annual dinner but I should be able to make the 15 Aug run.

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by Skipig:
we can still all ski together and night skiing is a great way to keep the fun going..... Having a few beers at the pub after is a good way to keep the fun going as well. ;)

Nice one Jerraman hopefully we will all get a few runs in before the FR
UP DATE

Aug 8th

Barcoo
spaz
Skipig

15th

Skipig
Barcoo + Sister
spaz
24&25
Ozgirl
skijacski
philbo and his +1
Spellcheck
Jerraman

And hopefully

The Frog
Mammoth junkie
Enie luvs to ski

[Skipig]

Looks like we are doing our first one this saturday .... the supertail is being prep'd and might be opened by sat .... Bring it on!!!!

[Barcoo]

No Skipig you can't do one until I get there, who's going to teach you how to light the flares. tongue.gif

[Skipig]

The wombats rabbits and foxes...... come on im a big boy now( and No... im not bragging)... I will do a few runs in yr name if that makes you happy???.... hehehehehe....

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by Skipig:
I will do a few runs in yr name if that makes you happy???.... hehehehehe.... Gee Skipig do ya mean that, your a good friend. :D

[spellcheck]

Got a mate coming down for the week, not sure what he skis like but count him in,just as long he doesn't spend too much time bending his arm before we get started.

[spaz]

Originally posted by Skipig:
Looks like we are doing our first one this saturday .... the supertail is being prep'd and might be opened by sat .... Bring it on!!!! graemlins/woohoo.gif graemlins/woohoo.gif

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by spaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Skipig:
Looks like we are doing our first one this saturday .... the supertail is being prep'd and might be opened by sat .... Bring it on!!!! graemlins/woohoo.gif graemlins/woohoo.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Noooooo not without me. I started this Flare run thing last year, why did you guys have to go and work down there, I hate you. tongue.gif

[Skipig]

Gee Barcoo ..... i didnt know you started the flare run..... graemlins/big_laugh.gif

And i know you dont hate me .....hehehe

[spaz]

There's still room for a photographer Barcoo, if you want to bail on what your doing. Guaranteed late nights in Thredbo, though not working on photo's ;)

[Barcoo]

graemlins/woohoo.gif graemlins/woohoo.gif I'm there :D

[Skipig]

Gday all ... just to keep you up to date with it all.... Last night was the first flare run for the season, with about 20-30 participants... evryone had a great run, there was no falls and there was lots of laughs, whoops and cheering ... there was the usual cheering crowd around ski in ski out with glow sticks and cow bells... there was the traditional tossing of non insructors...both spaz and myself got tossed along with a few others...overall a great night and there's only 15 more to go....looking forward to next week!!

[Barcoo]

Instructors Get tossed too.

[spaz]

I think the tossing is for virgins.

Somehow sp was mistaken for a virgin.

[Skipig]

Originally posted by spaz:
I think the tossing is for virgins.

Somehow sp was mistaken for a virgin. LOL @ Spaz ..... How long is it before i can requalify????? tongue.gif

[Podlettte]

it used to be 12 weeks.....

[Skipig]

Wow Pods .... is that all it takes to become a virgin again graemlins/big_laugh.gif

[Podlettte]

that's what I was told!

[Dr D]

graemlins/big_laugh.gif graemlins/big_laugh.gif graemlins/big_laugh.gif

[Barcoo]

Im a virgin on both counts tongue.gif

[Barcoo]

Hey spaz where is the Flare run Head cam video.

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by spaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Barcoo:
Me thinks we are going to need more flares. Thredbo seemed to have enough on this night.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa27/spazo77/Copy3ofFLARE6x8FINAL.jpg </font>[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention Spaz, a little birdy told me it was an interesting Flare Run last Saturday night. :D tongue.gif

[ 29. June 2009, 08:50 AM: Message edited by: Barcoo ]

[spaz]

Thankfully it was very hard to see, so maybe when I fell no one noticed. Skipig should know better than to drag his flare, snow seems to put them out :D

[ozgirl]

Spaz are you on ski's or a board for the flare run?

[Skipig]

Ok crew .... ready for #3....This one's for Spellcheck.... Heheehehehe

[Barcoo]

Tell me you fell Skipig, tell me you fell. tongue.gif :D

[Skipig]

No..... Sorry Barcoo, although there were 2 other unknown that did ....Mabe next week... Spaz missed this one... Idont know where he was.. no answer on phone and hoping he is ok..

[spaz]

At 5:10pm I woke up from my nanna nap, looked out at the ST and saw a groomer coming down so decided it had been called off. On my end, I hadn't had a phone call which confirmed it for me. Blardy phone! I think being out of service all day makes it forget how to make a connection.

[Barcoo]

Skipig you are so needy tongue.gif tongue.gif

[spaz]

It's just that I'm irresistible. graemlins/cold.gif

[Barcoo]

Originally posted by spaz:
It's just that I'm irresistible. graemlins/cold.gif On the Village cam maybe. ;)

[Snow Yeti]

I've created an event on Facebook as per ozgirl's request/idea

I need more information on this so I can update the event please !

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=108907597395&ref=mf

[ 15. July 2009, 11:33 PM: Message edited by: Snow Yeti ]

[skijacski]

Yeti, I don't do Facebook so I cant access it.

[Skipig]

Well..... another flare run down and this one was a little different...... half of the runners went down the traditional path and the other half ( which spaz and i were on )went down sundowners and down wombats ramble to the base of snowgums chair where the fireworks launched from.... great night as usual and looking forward to the next one .....

[Barcoo]

Was that supposed to happen Skipig?

[spaz]

It was, they warned us at the top something different was going to happen and to just follow the person in front. Which isn't always the best advice as the.. eh emm, skier in front of skipig fell twice veering off course into the dark.

[ozgirl]

Spaz would that be the boarder who is trying to get his ski legs back??

Can't wait for my first run in two weeks time!!!

[Barcoo]

Our first Snowachers Slide Flare Run is this Sat
So who is in as we can't let Skipig and Spaz have all the fun.

[The Frog]

What do you have to do to be included, could be a possibility.

[skichic]

where's apres flare run happening?

[ozgirl]

Barcoo &/or Spaz

Can you put a summary together for those who at the last minute want to participate and or watch like SC mentioned.

Also orignally the meeting spot was the bistro for those who are participating but Spaz mentioned (either to me or somewhere on the forum) that we were meeting at his box, can you please post the exact details for people who don't have your mobile etc.

What is the last moment that you can register - say if someone wants to head over from perisher at the end of their day skiing?

And one other thing - I am hoping to be in the village at 1pm in time for the late start ticket so will call or msg Spaz or Barcoo (24 I seem to have missplaced yours so PM) for a slide in the afternoon :)

Looking forward to this weekend :)

[karen97]

I might be a starter!

[The Frog]

Four of us here are interested including missus frog and myself, just don't know what we are supposed to do.

[spaz]

#1 You need to be at VT (Valley Terminal) by 5:30.

#2 If you've never done a Flare Run before you need to sign in at #1.

Nothing complicated, just turn up and scibble on some paper.


VT is at the base of Kosciuszko Express chairlift, which is across the foot bridge from Thredbo Alpine Hotel (the far end of the Village from were you drive in). My little booth (or box or hole) is in VT and is the window that everyone chooses to rest their ski's against while they wait to catch SnowGums chair it's also right were you sign. I'll be there from about 4:30-5 drinking beer and I'm normally the last to leave after the FR - drinking beer.
You don't need to be a great skier I did it after 2 days skiing, you just need to be able to follow the person in front and be fit enough to do the Supertrail without a rest or falling.

They have a convenient bin at the top of Slowgums for empty bottles if you desire a drink on the lift.

smile.gif

[karen97]

Bear and I are in!

[ozgirl]

YAY Kaz and Bear graemlins/woohoo.gif

For Apres Flare Run people I would suggest the Bistro - Anyone else got a better idea?

It would be good if someone was wearing a Snowatch hoodie or something? 24 is 25 participating or watching? That way there would be a central gathering spot. Rather than +1 or friends of Snowatchers having to scranle for phone numbers.

[The Frog]

We were told to wear old gear as the flare's can spit and burn holes in your stuff, especially gloves...that has me a bit worried as my stuff I have here is top dollar.

Might be a bit cold for a snowatch hoodie though as it will be very windy at that time. I have snowatch on my helmet anyway, as does missus frog.

[Jerraman]

Yes, there's a risk that the flares will burn your gear. Instructors use old suits and gloves. I've done a couple of flare runs and not had a problem. I hold the flare right at the end and out to the side rather than up. Only problem is that it's easy to drop the flare.

I'll do the flare run on Saturday.

[ozgirl]

Frog can you wear a windbreaker fleece under the snow watch hoodie (ie lots of layers).

I suspect that you could ride the chair with an outter layer for warmth and then put that outer layer in the a backpack for the actual run.

I will be going to mum and dad's tomorrow will raid their wardrobe for old gear (it could be really old tho) you are more than welcome to borrow whatever i find.

[Tan]

Enjoy the run everyone. Was hoping to make the weekend dash but I think I'll have to save it up.

Hey Spaz - was good to say hi. Yeah, I'm hooked! Have been in my cave these last 10 days...plotting my next assault.

[The Frog]

Spaz i forgot to take the stickers down today (even though you weren't there) but met lavender lilly anyway.

Missus frog is not so keen after hearing about the gear burning issues. If the wind is not too bad I still might give it a go.

[spaz]

I wear my good gear, but use broken poles to extend the reach of the flare, so far after many FR's, I have only one tiny hole in my pants and one in my gloves - both occurred when I didn't use the poles. The other trick is to keep rotating the flare so it burns evenly.

I have a good stock of broken poles.

[spaz]

Meeting in the bistro is a good idea, though I'm generally to rushed to get there (I will make an effort) If skiing till the end of the day you only have time for one (maybe 2) beers before heading to VT - I prefer to have my beer in VT, I have half a case stashed there and will buy another for Sat.

If anyone wants to wear a camera come to VT earlier-no charge. I will be wearing one but you only get a good view of the person in front. And I'm likely to fall :D I play them back as soon as it finishes in VT.

Finishing off the beer is fun on Friday Flat for a couple of runs during night skiing (then drinks at River Inn was skipigs standard)-it's a good way for none able flare runners to join in (kids & boarders). Any other ideas, for dinner perhaps? pizza?

[skijacski]

Have fun guys, I am unfortunately already booked.

It is true, wear your oldest gloves, they are the things that get burnt with me, and if there are too many flare runners, sometimes your skis will have burns in them, but I don't care about that, add's character.

Ozgirl - drop the $$ with Spaz and let me know, as I am outback most of the day.

[Legolas]

have great fun tomorrow all.

Sorry I forgot to get back to you oz! We have 16 kids and 11 "grown ups" (snort) for dinner tomorrow so won't make it either.

Carve it up for piggy

[spaz]

Bear, Karen, snowhite, ozgirl, barcoo and I are in attendance.

[Polaris]

Make sure Bear is in front of you!!! :eek:

I hear he has a habit of running people down ;)

[The Frog]

We were all at the balcony and windows waving and taking photos as you came down passed On The Snow/Ski in Ski Out.

I couldn't make it ofcourse as Manly was playing. )

[ozgirl]

It was AWESOME!!

So glad I made the trip. Frog, 24 and I thought we saw you on the balcony at one point, both of us too chicken to call out :)

[ozgirl]

Oh and the "Offical' Snowatchers head count was

Spaz
Spaz +1 (honorary Snowatcher for the night :)
Ozgirl
24
Barcoo
Jerraman
Kaz
Bear
SnoWhite

Good turn out - but now that we have done it once hopefully we get more for next years!!! And that Skipig is with us!

[24]

it was awesome! thanks to all for taking part, and especially to spaz and barcoo for guidance and organizing!

can't wait till next year...

[Silverwitch]

Did someone take a video of the flare run I am interested to see what it looks like?
Cheers!

[skijacski]

Plenty of video to come from Snocam.com.au

Spaz is busy at the moment so it could take a little while.

[karen97]

Ummm I hope it will be edited ;)

[ozgirl]

hehe.

But the story has already been told??

[Barcoo]

One of the best Flare runs ever,so good to meet every one.
Glad to have done the Flarie with Skipig the week before, get well soon buddy.
I will post my video footage from our house soon (a friend shot it, looks great as you can see the whole thing)

[karen97]

Originally posted by ozgirl:
hehe.

But the story has already been told?? No, and it will not be either

[ozgirl]

I am sure it will be editted - i don't think anyone would want to watch the dark footage of you riding the slowglums chair!!!

Riveting stuff that would be - NOT!

[Barcoo]

ops.
I had my cam recording on the ride up with 24 and we trashed Spaz the whole way. ;) tongue.gif

[Boardingbuny]

heheh I believe Chicco and Mia Mafioso were there running amok... Karen, did you get any pics of the monster on the skidoo??