packing...there must be an easier way...

[Legolas]

Now I know you lot go on trips often, and I have to say, that in the last year, the legs family have made up for a lot of lost time ourselves.

Surely there is some sort of auto printout packing list eh?

I found a bit of one on another forum, and I have a few things organised in my head, but gee it would be nice to just print out a list the week before we go, pack the bags in a well ordered fashion, and go.

We are a family of five!

We are having a two day stop in Sapporo on the way to a week in Niseko.

I'm thinking to try and send the bulk of our luggage ahead and fit our sapporo gear into carry on for each of us (but then there's the vanity bag with associated liquids that has to go in main luggage, apres boots which I imagine we'll need in Sapporo?).

doin my head in.

Any organised people out there? you know those minds that can input all this info and spit out a list of how many bags, what to pack in each and what not to forget? I don't.

[skichic]

skis, boots, ski gear, icebreaker tops, jeans, undies, socks, toiletries. Wear hiking boots and comfy trackies on plane, with down jacket in carry-on.

Done.

Sounds like you're taking too much stuff Legs.

[Legolas]

Originally posted by skichic:

Sounds like you're taking too much stuff Legs. starting with a hubby and 3 kids! graemlins/cold.gif

[Dippo]

Originally posted by Legolas:


(but then there's the vanity bag with associated liquids that has to go in main luggage, apres boots which I imagine we'll need in Sapporo?).

Legolas, the liquids things do go in the checked lugguage for the international flight but for domestic in Japan they need to be in the carry on. That is for JAL. Our travel agent told us this and I had it confirmed by JAL yesterday.
The packing thing is very hard, I leave tomorrow for Niseko and its hard to think cold clothes when it so hot here.

[Podlettte]

Legs - Think of Sapporo as a ski resort without chair lifts asyou'll be wearing the same clothes there during the day and night as you would for apres wear in Niseko. It's very cold in sapporo. The kids can wear their apres boots on the plane can't they or am I totally clueless about beasties?

Where you are staying you'll have drying facilities, so don't go overboard as if something gets a bit wet it can hang in the drying room for an hour and it'll be dry smile.gif

[BlueHue]

You stopping over in Tokyo Legs?

1) Take one set of cloths for each person and some basic toileteries in carry on bag.

2) Take empty suitcases and credit card with plenty of credit.

3) Shop your brains out in Tokyo and Hokkaido.

[Podlettte]

hmm I like that idea!! :D I wished I'd done that when we got to hokkaido, there as sooo many cool snow/cold weather clothes over there, particularly in really funky colours and colour combos.

Do it legs! :D

[ 10.01.2008, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Podlettte ]

[BlueHue]

Thought you had real work to do today Pods tongue.gif

[Podlettte]

I do and I'm kind of doing it

[Paul Oberin]

Originally posted by BlueHue:
You stopping over in Tokyo Legs?

1) Take one set of cloths for each person and some basic toileteries in carry on bag.

2) Take empty suitcases and credit card with plenty of credit.

3) Shop your brains out in Tokyo and Hokkaido. Watch it with Liquids, there are now very strict rules for carrying liquids in your carry on bags.

[Podlettte]

100ml max for each bottle/container with a total max of 1L all in the 1 zip lock bag. Buy shampoo and stuff when you get there if doing what BH suggests, and most other things are the right size or you can get nalgene type bottles to squirt stuff into

[Crystal]

Pack as little as possible, makes it much easier.

Ski stuff
1 pair apre shoes
Undies (jocks/socks etc)
1 Jumper/jacket (you are bound to buy 1 or 2 whislt travelling)
1 pair trackies
1 pair jeans
couple of T shirts
Toiletries

packing complete,

[Tamsy]

camera or camcorder are a must, so you can share when you get home :D

[ 10.01.2008, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: Tamsy. ]

[John Deere]

I think Hiking boots are a pain in Japan, they come off and go on so much the lacing gets arduous. I prefer to use slip on mocs....I have some North Face ones, but Merrell make some good ones too!

[BlueHue]

Yep Tamsy is on to something. Camera etc a must pack!

[Podlettte]

I wore my Lowa goretex lined low hiking shoes last year, but did the laces up losely so I could slip them off easily. worked a treat and their grip was better than any other shoe I've had on ice, only got caught on one spot walking down our street, so I sat down and slid down the sheet ice road :D

[Legolas]

FOR ANYONE WANTING TO KNOW
QANTAS LUGGAGE WEIGHT INFO (http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying/beforeYouTravel/baggageAddCollection)

[skichic]

Originally posted by Podlettte:
100ml max for each bottle/container with a total max of 1L all in the 1 zip lock bag. Buy shampoo and stuff when you get there if doing what BH suggests, and most other things are the right size or you can get nalgene type bottles to squirt stuff into and onsens provide shampoo, liquid soap etc, I found I didn't need to use any of my own last year.

[Xena]

Originally posted by Legolas:
FOR ANYONE WANTING TO KNOW
QANTAS LUGGAGE WEIGHT INFO (http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying/beforeYouTravel/baggageAddCollection) Thanks for that - tried to find it and couldn't!

[snowman]

SPACE BAGS

[karen97]

Pfft.... Just wear your ski gear onto the plane :D

[BlueHue]

I guess its about time I washed all my winter clothes ready to pack then. You'd think since our winter ended 4 months ago I'd have done it by now.

[eckstar]

gear is layed out in the spare room waiting to be packed , will double check it on thursday.

[karen97]

1/2 packed :D

[Legolas]

Originally posted by BlueHue:
I guess its about time I washed all my winter clothes ready to pack then. You'd think since our winter ended 4 months ago I'd have done it by now. mmmm, they must smell lovely BH

[Legolas]

Originally posted by eckstar:
gear is layed out in the spare room waiting to be packed , will double check it on thursday. what...in case it's gone without you?

[Legolas]

Originally posted by karen97:
1/2 packed :D you're fast!

Have you done this before? ;)

[karen97]

Not since Feb :D

[BlueHue]

Originally posted by Legolas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BlueHue:
I guess its about time I washed all my winter clothes ready to pack then. You'd think since our winter ended 4 months ago I'd have done it by now. mmmm, they must smell lovely BH </font>[/QUOTE]I suspect thats why it takes me so long to get round to washing them. It takes serious commitment and stamina to survive delving into that pile of washing, especially when you've been stinking it up on ski tours :eek:

[Rednut]

been sorting out and organising gear out this evening :D

My double ski bag will be almost empty compared to my hotham trip last year...

[Tobi]

My board bag already has all my snowboard gear in it.

I'll throw some clothes in the day before I leave.

[Rednut]

doing a search on the topic myself... found this on epicski, credits to skimangojazz and jstraw




Here’s my pack list, been using and upgrading it for years. I don't bring all this on all trips, but print it out and have it while I pack. With the list I can pack in under an hour and trust I didn't forget anything important (like the bathing suit - most often forgotten pre list days.



My carry on is ski boots, goggles, ski pants and one set of ski underwear – also toiletries (whatever I can’t deal with waiting for if they lose it.)



Skis

Poles

Ski Boots

Ski Pants

Ski underwear inc. socks

Gloves

Ski tops

Sweaters/Fleece

Neck Gator

Hat

Helmet

Goggles

Toiletries

Flip Flops (for hot tub/pool)

Bathing suit (don’t want to have to buy one there!)

T shirts, shirts

Jeans, sweats

Sneakers

Extra eyeware, contact lens stuff, sunglasses

Room deodorant (shared bathroom)

Bathrobe

Pillow

Tickets, membership cards

Books/magazines

Pen paper

Sunblock

Vitamins, medications - first aid, motrin, tums, ice pack

Fanny pack, backpack, etc.

Cellphone charger

Camera, film, batteries



If I bring a laptop, long telephone cord to get to inconveniently placed phone jack. Possible extension cord for power too.



If I'm staying where I'll be able to cook I bring some coffee for the first morning, maybe an oatmeal package,etc. salt/pepper.


ON THE BUS



* Footwear

* Blankets or sleeping bag

* Pillow (or pillow case for jacket)

* Cards, small games, things to read

* Wear clothing you can sleep in (sweats make great bus clothes)

* Ski Jacket

* Coolie Cup for cans

* Toothbrush, toothpaste, mints for "bus breath"

* Small bag for personal items and medication (you can't get into luggage stored under the bus)

* Cash/travelers' checks/plastic

* Gum (to pop your ears)

* Motion sickness pills (if needed)

* No wine! (causes sickness)

* No illegal substances



ON THE MOUNTAIN



* Skis, boots, poles (can be rented on-site or in Kansas City)

* 2 pair long underwear

* At least 2 pair ski socks (wash & alternate day-to-day)

* Bibs or ski pants

* Goggles and sunglasses

* Ski sweater, if desired

* Turtlenecks

* Ski jacket

* Wool hat

* Waterproof ski gloves or mittens

* Sunscreen, chapstick

* Fanny pack for carrying things

* Kleenex or handkerchief

* Credit card, money, identification

* Wind shirt or powder jacket for warmer weather

* Neck scarf or bandana



OFF THE MOUNTAIN



* Warm winter footwear

* Swimsuit and towel for hot tub

* Robe (to cover-up in group environment)

* Sleepwear

* Slacks or jeans (dress codes in ski areas are very casual)

* Shirts and sweaters (same as above)

* Camera and film

* Toilet articles

* Underwear, socks

* NO VALUABLES (leave the good jewelry at home)

* Best of all, a sense of humor: the unexpected DOES happen on ski trips!

[Vet]

Red, don't forget:
- the Power socket thingie converter
- corkscrew
- dad's mastercard
- vegemite

[snowman]

Wow some people take some C.r.a.p....

[freddy]

Don't forget the fanny pack,
and the merkin!

[snowman]

ill take 2 boards , bindings,boots,pants,puffer,gogs,helmet,socks/thermals
couple of t's ,pair of jeans,hoodie, boxers, toiletries shoes,thongs thats about it..and camera/videocamera/laptop

[Tobi]

Add shorts for the pool and you are set snowman!

[Podlettte]

shorts for the pool? you mean onsen? no shorts needed it's your birthday suit!

[BlueHue]

I washed all my ski gear tonight... gloves smelt a little funky. Tomorrow night I'll be ready to start packing.

[Legolas]

hooley dooley. That is a great set of lists for packing. I should start doing more than thinking about it I guess.

[snowman]

Originally posted by Tobi:
Add shorts for the pool and you are set snowman! ITs all nude for that!!!!!!!!!

[eckstar]

how's the timing , article in todays smh

http://www.smh.com.au/news/tips/how-to-pack-light/2008/01/03/1198949987568.html

[Legolas]

very good link in that article. Thanks eckstar.

[Tobi]

Originally posted by Podlettte:
shorts for the pool? you mean onsen? no shorts needed it's your birthday suit! We've had this conversation before Pods.

No nakkie Tobi.

[Rednut]

no onsen for tobi then...

[Podlettte]

exactly, and it's only chicks that'll see you naked anyway ;)

no clothes in an onsen, they'll ask you to take them off ;)

[Legolas]

really?

Are there kid friendly Onsen? or family onsen? does that mean I can't take the boys? :(

[Tobi]

Same sex only from what I understand.

Rumour has it there is a 'mixed' one in Habuka but no one I know has found it.

[ 16.01.2008, 12:10 AM: Message edited by: Tobi ]

[popshuvit]

Tobi,
I hear that you can get a private onsen for you and that special person.
When I was in Niseko last, 2 people from the pension I was in went to a public onsen and the attendants said they could arrange a private onsen for them. However, the attendant didn't realise that these people were brother and sister, and the offer of a private onsen didn't go down too well with them.

[Crystal]

Originally posted by Legolas:
really?

Are there kid friendly Onsen? or family onsen? does that mean I can't take the boys? :( In Furano you can take your boys into the girly one up till the age of about 6 I think. Do a google search surely there must be an "appropriate age", or ask a certain member of another forum now residing in Japan.

[LJH]

I am pretty sure there is a mixed onsen in Niseko. Hope to see you there on the 16th legs

[ 16.01.2008, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: LJH ]

[Xena]

This is great!

http://www.onebag.com/packing-list-wardrobe.html

[skijacski]

Legs, If you are staying with HokkaidoTracks - they can arrange for your other gear that you don't need to be Black Catted to the Airport in Tokyo that you leave from.

We are using this service while we are touring Japan and not skiing. You then pick it up at the airport before you check in with Qantas or whoever you are travelling with.

Black cat will cost about $15 per bag and this is the way all Japanese travel, that is why they don't have anything with them.

When we arrive in Tokyo we are taking our bags straight to the Black Cat servie at the airport as we are staying in Tokyo for a few nights. It will be waiting for us either at our accommodation or with HokkaidoTracks.

See you there.

[Whiteman]

Be very wary of the baggage limits coming back!!!!

Make sure you get to the airport VERY early to check in and be in the queue! The Japanese staff at Qantas are not as helpful or lenient with weights and enforce the limit. Pack light for the return trip or they might hold your boarding pass as ransom.

No pay excess baggage = no boarding pass!

[Bear]

Remember to pack a JACKET. graemlins/cold.gif

[BlueHue]

and I have it on good advice thats its not a good idea to leave your camera in the pocket of your jacket either tongue.gif

[Bear]

Actually I had packed the cammera, however I fell on it one too many times so it no worky anymore.

[Legolas]

Originally posted by skijacski:
Legs, If you are staying with HokkaidoTracks - they can arrange for your other gear that you don't need to be Black Catted to the Airport in Tokyo that you leave from.

We are using this service while we are touring Japan and not skiing. You then pick it up at the airport before you check in with Qantas or whoever you are travelling with.

Black cat will cost about $15 per bag and this is the way all Japanese travel, that is why they don't have anything with them.

When we arrive in Tokyo we are taking our bags straight to the Black Cat servie at the airport as we are staying in Tokyo for a few nights. It will be waiting for us either at our accommodation or with HokkaidoTracks.

See you there. Thanks for the tip sjs, we are staying at Youtei tracks, so I'll email them. Will the gear get there in a day? On the way in, we are in Sapporo for a few days, so thought we'd forward gear that way, but I hadn't thought about the trip back.

might bump into your plaits over there.

Doc D and I have loosely arranged for a hello and slide on the 15th (I think). Meeting outside NISS ski school around 10 (I think).

[skijacski]

Do it from the airport when you arrive otherwise you will be lugging luggage all around the place and the train people don't like that.

So if you arrive in Tokyo late one day and Black Cat from airport, it will be there, not the next day, but the next one, so we are in Tokyo for 2 nights and then travelling to Niseko, and the bags will be there then.

Japan is very reliable for this and the trains, they say you can set your watches by the trains arrival and depature.

I am at Deep Tracks and then at Freshwater.

[skijacski]

Here is the information for Black Cat just put your name and booking reference and it should arrive at Niseko for you.

Advise Hokkaido Tracks that you are doing this too.

Hokkaido Tracks
Your name
Booking number
190-18 Aza Yamada Kutchan cho Abuta Gun
Hokkaido, Japan 044-0081

Phone: +81 (0) 136 233 503
Fax: +81 (0) 136 233 505


北海道虻田郡倶知安町字山田190-18

[ssar]

Originally posted by Rednut:
doing a search on the topic myself... found this on epicski, credits to skimangojazz and jstraw

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Here’s my pack list, been using and upgrading it for years. !</font>[/QUOTE]Bumping this, this list is very helpful, thanks for posting it Rednut (& to the other credits).

I will post my own which I compile for Niseko in Feb 2009 soon..

[ssar]

Originally posted by ssar:
I will post my own which I compile for Niseko in Feb 2009 soon..---

Snowriding Packing List – Updated Feb 2009


1) Examine & Test equipment prior to packing.

2) For Plane Travel – Prepare for the chance your checked-in luggage may be misdirected or lost, by packing the essentials to travel and to ski into your carry-on bag / or carrying with you (e.g. Travel Docs, I.D., Wallet, Currency, Vouchers, Lift Pass, Goggles, Ski Pants & Jacket, Ski Gloves, Ski Socks)


Snowriding Equipment:

Skis
Ski Boots
Ski Poles


Snowriding Clothing:

Socks
Tights / Sports Pants
Knee Guards
Ski / Shell Pants
Thermals (Pants & Top)
Singlets
Icebreaker Long Sleeve Top
Long Sleeve T-Shirts
Fleece Vest / Jumper
Ski / Shell Jacket
Ski Gloves
SkiGee (Goggle Scraper)
Neck Warmer
Facemask
Goggles
Beanie
Helmet


Snowriding Accessories:

Snaplock Plastic Bags
Sunscreen
Chapstick
Small Heat Pack
Ski Repair Tools & Equipment


General Clothing:

Walking / General Shoes
Warm / Casual Socks
Underwear / Boxer Shorts
Tracksuit Pants
Woollen / Warm Casual Gloves
T-Shirts / Tops (Short & Long Sleeve)
Jumper / Jacket
2nd Beanie
Sunglasses


Documents & I.D.:

Wallet
Spending Currency
Credit / Bank Card
Passport
Driver’s Licence
Birth Certificate
Airline Tickets
Travel Documents / Vouchers / Itineraries
Ski Pass
Accommodation Details


General Accessories:

Mobile Phone
Camera with Memory Sticks / Film, Batteries, Charger
Watch
MP3 Player with Headphones, Charger
USB Memory Stick
Laptop Computer, Charger
Pens
Writing Paper
Playing Cards
Coldie Holder
Manly Warringah Sea Eagles drinks coasters


Toiletries:

Toothbrush
Toothpaste
Razor
Deodorant
Soap
Shampoo / Conditioner


Medical:

Inhalers – Relieving & Preventative
Panadol / Pain Relief
First Aid – Band Aids, Betadine, Gauze, Tape, Bandage


---

[TB]

Wow you guys take too much.

Ski gear-all of it including the warm stuff. Dont triplicate stuff.

The rest, one pair of shoes, heavy duty-I use hiking boots but JD has a point. Couple pairs of jeans, a few tops, couple warm jumpery things, undies/socks, some toiletries in travel sizes.

Credit card to buy what you need, including some warm fleeces etc that are also souvenirs . That is all.

Admit I have no kids, thats tougher but still pack light and use the laundry.

[SA]

I agree. This last trip:

Non-skiing:
undies (enough for trip), jeans (worn every day), light puffy, 2 t/long-sleeve shirts, shorts for indoor, 2 pairs of non-skiing socks, Merrell mocs, toiletries, digicam, mobile, travel docs, chargers+power board.

Skiing:
skis, boots, poles, avy gear, helmet, shell pants/jacket, polyprop x2, mid/top layer thermals, skins, gloves, soft-shell, boot dryer.

I ovepacked with the soft-shell. Bought a full-zip fleece for 980yen :D

Fitted in a double roller ski bag (22kg, 6kg empty) and my daypack (7kg). Makes for easy transfers.

Next time around I aim to look for a lighter roller bag.

[Donza]

Damn.
There is some gear there...

That poor aeroplane.

[SA]

:D

[Donza]

I took pretty much the same as you SA.
Just more socks. And a pair of cargos I wore on the plane.
Plus I just wash tees clothes etc every 4 days.

[SA]

I could've left more socks at home, ended up wearing a pair of wool ski socks the whole trip - another pair, not the skiing ones.

Wash, what is this wash???

[Donza]

Wash = my wife made me do it.

Seriously though I was at a lodge a few years ago when a group of four guys rocked up.
They had. Between 4.
4 ski bags
3 large wheelie (think big) suit cases
4 day-aeroplance day packs.

Then they proceed to lounge in their trackies and stinky thermals after skiing each day.
Too buggered to go out and enjoy their clothes.

[SA]

I forgot - skins as well. They weight about 1.2kg by themselves.

[ 17.02.2009, 02:55 PM: Message edited by: SA ]

[ssar]

I have packed most of the things in my list above (less a few items not required for this trip) into 3 bags:

Check-in Ski Bag: 1 x pair skis + 1 a set poles = 7kg
Check-in Bag: Boots, most clothes, shell jacket, gloves, helmet, goggles, toiletries etc. packed fairly tightly into a smallish duffle-type bag (that isn;t quite small enough to be a carry-on bag) = 12 kg
Carry-on Backpack: Docs, Wallet, Cards, Cameras, Chargers, Cables etc., some clothes = 4 kg

Total Check-in luggage = 19kg
Total Carry-on luggage = 4kg + worn clothes and fleece jumper.

JAL stipulates 20kg max total Check-in luggage, + 10kg max total carry-on luggage.

Sweet.

One thing I have not packed is my pocket (swiss army victorinox) knife, though I would like to - I know it could only go into Check-in luggage - what do you reckon'? Are they ok to take (in Check-in luggage)?

[ 17.02.2009, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: ssar ]

[Princess]

Originally posted by ssar:
Snowriding Packing List – Updated Feb 2009
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Birth Certificate
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Firstly, that's a hell of a list. Even I don't take that much!

Secondly, do you really take your birth certificate and why???

[SA]

ssar - they'd be fine in checked luggage.

[Legolas]

agreed, and always so handy.

Good list ssar, looking forward to hearing how it worked for you.

legs

p.s. I bet you are having fun now yes?

[ssar]

Originally posted by Princess:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ssar:
Snowriding Packing List – Updated Feb 2009
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Birth Certificate
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Firstly, that's a hell of a list. Even I don't take that much!

Secondly, do you really take your birth certificate and why??? </font>[/QUOTE]Actually, a copy of my birth certificate, have the original stashed safely at home.

For possible I.D. issues.

[SA]

What's wrong with your passport?

[Tobi]

I will admit I packed WAY too much this time around. Packing while drunk probably isn't the best idea.