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chunky
18-06-2009, 07:10 PM
I don't mind cats when they don't stay in my yard for very long but one has decided it is the place to stay now and I am not going to let it take more birds than it has already.
My friends say to trap it and give it a permanent swim in the river but I believe in giving the owners a chance even though it has no collar or markings on it to identify where it is from.
Do I have the right to trap it and take it to the pound? I figure there will be a penalty to get it back so if they (the owners) want it back they will go to the trouble of doing it.
I have a dog. It doesn't go out of my yard. I don't let it roam. I don't let it kill things. So why the hell are their so many irresponsible cat owners out there that think their cats can go whereever they please!!!!
snowman
18-06-2009, 07:15 PM
As a cat owner, trap it and take it to the pound hopefully owners claim it. It's owners like this that give cats a bad name,our cat never leaves the house.and has a name tag with our details on it incase she gets out.
[ 18. June 2009, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: snowman ]
Officer Schmenz
18-06-2009, 07:18 PM
with that in mind.. not all cats are kept inside..
and then how do you stop it from roaming.. a cat will go where it wants to go.. unless you put super high fences around the yard.
chunky
18-06-2009, 07:29 PM
My dog is not 'allowed' to roam so why should cats be the same. They have the potential to be more dangerous to wildlife than dogs.
Altheau
18-06-2009, 07:35 PM
you might even be able to get a trap from the pound, I am pretty sure the one in my parents home town gives them out, so other pounds might as well
I would ring the pound and get some advice off them
[ 18. June 2009, 06:46 PM: Message edited by: Altheau ]
Polaris
18-06-2009, 07:38 PM
I will zip my mouth cause this is a family friendly place
chunky
18-06-2009, 07:39 PM
Sounds like a plan.
chunky
18-06-2009, 07:39 PM
Sounds like a plan.
Officer Schmenz
18-06-2009, 07:55 PM
i understand that you can control a dog.. but u cant control a cat like that.
cats dont sit, stay, drop, roll over
Snow Yeti
18-06-2009, 08:21 PM
It should be tagged right? Call the pound and get them to come and check who owns it
Legolas
18-06-2009, 08:42 PM
my bro-in-law has just bought a house, and in buying it, actually considered the fact that they could build a four sided cat encloser out the side.
You should see the courtyard these cats are going to score!!!
but apart from the fact that they are unloving, manipulative native animal consmers, I see no need to erradicate them from the face of the earth graemlins/outtahere.gif
Snow Yeti
18-06-2009, 08:44 PM
I like cats
(and no I don't eat them graemlins/outtahere.gif )
chunky
18-06-2009, 09:52 PM
Legs you say no need. Do you mean we should ;)
Silverwitch
18-06-2009, 10:30 PM
Chunky..I with you on this topic!
If you have a cat you should have a cat run or netting is placed on top of the fences to make them cat proof,so it ( cats) can only stay on the owners property, not poop where ever it likes ( my backyard for instance!) and not stalk/attack and kill birds!!
People who own cats should be responsible for where there cat is!
We have lots of birds around our neighbourhood in Canberra and probably once a week see feathers scattered in our back yard and even wounded/dead birds of all descriptions!
We are sick of cats being in our yard.They even come and sit on the back deck and try to get our cockatiels when we put them on the deck ( in their cage) for some sunshine!
We are animal lovers but cant stand cats for the very reasons you state and for the awful injuries we see that they cause to out native wildlife!
I am all for trapping it and taking it to the pound!
[ 18. June 2009, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: Silverwitch ]
Originally posted by Polaris:
I will zip my mouth cause this is a family friendly place Good boy Pol!
Not all cats behave this way. It's like saying all humans kill people they don't like. There are feral cats that kill. There are a small few domestic cats that do too. But, not every cat that has been let out of the house kills native animals and poops on people's yards. How come you never hear people publicly pronouncing their wish to kill a pesky dog?
My suggestion - call the pound to come and take the cat away. If it is microchipped, it will get back to it's owner. The sting of a fine will have them fix the problem.
I had a problem with my cat, as some may remember. Something clicked in her head one day and she kept escaping from the house (kids and doors!) and would go missing for days on end, until I'd get a call from someone who had her. The pound took her one time and she was giving my other 'homely' cat some grief (which caused the 2nd cat to have a stroke and die). That is when I decided to take her to the vet for some treatment. He gave her a shot of something that he would normally give to psychotic dogs and she wanders no more! She goes outside, but never off my property and does NOT kill anything.
Don't vilify every cat for the behavior of some. Be reminded, causing the death of a cat (like with aspirin) is a crime punishable by law - cruelty to animals - and puts that person in the same category as the animal they are judging (the cat killed wildlife, so I killed it.)
The blatant emotional propaganda directed towards cats is similar to how hysteria is generated against any group. Just switch the word cat for jew or homosexual.
Yes, native animals are dying but I don’t think cats are the primary cause. Rather cats are just a scapegoat and at best just one minor factor in the process.
Lets look at what happens during surburbanisation. The initial blow to wild populations is through the construction of roads. Roads act as either barriers to movement, or killing grounds for populations. This fragmentation of habitat has been shown to make local population more susceptible to extinction. Next, land is cleared to build houses. This removes habitat for many populations and opens habitat for many other species, that are adapted to environments disturbed by humans. Next, unwanted animals are culled. This is especially true for snakes and spiders, regardless of species, being killed on site. Finally, exotic vegetation is planted, which benefit certain human adapted species.
Now, go ahead and vilify me for my opinion, but I will always stick up for the cat.
[ 18. June 2009, 11:14 PM: Message edited by: Xena ]
Snow Yeti
18-06-2009, 11:38 PM
I agree with Xena. I had a cat for 14 years. He was part of the family, moved a few times, even survived cold cold winters.
Poor cat, got run over by the neighbours.
I like cats they can be friendly, until they bite and scare the crap out of you lol
Legolas
18-06-2009, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by chunky:
Legs you say no need. Do you mean we should ;) http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/MSN_Emoticons/MSN-Emoticon-113.gif
Podlettte
18-06-2009, 11:48 PM
when I was a bush regenerator I went through a stage of intense dislike of cats and cat owners and their irresponsibility in letting cats wander all hours of the night and dawn and dusk. now I see it's not the cats fault, it's doing what it does naturally ie explore.
Cats face the same registration process as dogs and should be held up to the same control laws as dogs ie not allowed to roam free outside of owners backyard, on a leash when in public etc etc.
I think the outside cat runs are a great idea it gives the cats outside time without running away or causing harm to wildlife.
Mum is a magnet for any stray cat, or used to be, we had 6 at one point when I was very young, though not for long. when we get more space and aren't doing every weekend away we'll get one of each ;) cat and dog that is
Butters
18-06-2009, 11:59 PM
as far as i know, QLD doesn't require companion animals to be microchipped and registered as NSW does, so it may be impossible to find their owner. If it's taken to the pound, it will likely have only 7 days to be claimed until it's euthanased. So if it's owner is away, then they may not get a chance to save it.
Then again it could be a half feral stray.
As far as your dog being a model citizen, if you had no fence, do you really think your dog wouldn't go wandering?
Camoman
19-06-2009, 12:01 AM
Ahahah as soon as I saw this topic I recalled the old one wen it got quite heated.....
I have met great - indoor - cats.
But unfortunately I always see my neighbours cat in the street stalking birds..and have seen them in my yard too chasing lizards, birds, etc so I share your annoyance. Unfortunately putting a stop to it yourself is not really looked well upon. I completely beleive if its a serial offender that you should be able to deal with it your own way... I will take out feral cats when out hunting and know many ppl who would say well done for doing it yet this cat cant be touched just because it lives in suburbia. For all you know it may not even have a home. Even if it does, if its spending more time in your yard than at the home then its more feral than domesticated. It could be doing even more damage than those 'proper ferals' living out in the sticks.
However, in doing the right thing I say trap it and take it to the pound. If its owners care for it they will collect it. If not you have prevented it from taking anymore wildlife in a way I would say is legal. Its a domestic animal on your property and you don't want it there, I don't see any issue with trapping it.
[ 18. June 2009, 11:03 PM: Message edited by: Camoman ]
chunky
19-06-2009, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Butters:
as far as i know, QLD doesn't require companion animals to be microchipped and registered as NSW does, so it may be impossible to find their owner. If it's taken to the pound, it will likely have only 7 days to be claimed until it's euthanased. So if it's owner is away, then they may not get a chance to save it.
Then again it could be a half feral stray.
As far as your dog being a model citizen, if you had no fence, do you really think your dog wouldn't go wandering? I wouldn't keep a dog without a fenced yard.
skichic
19-06-2009, 09:21 AM
Exactly Chunky. If you have an animal it is your responsibility to keep it contained within your yard. Applies to dogs, cats, even the blardy pet goose that attacked my eldest as a toddler in our own back yard.
Catch it and take it to the pound. Maybe then the owners will take a bit more responsibility.
chunky
19-06-2009, 07:55 PM
Just heard from July 1 Brisbane City Council are introducing registration for cats here. Dogs and cat will need to be microchipped. Annual registration I think is going to be about $40 for cats.
Snow Yeti
19-06-2009, 08:29 PM
That's not too bad ....
Pet Goose SC???? OMG lol
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